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  1. Welcome

    1. Special Announcements

      Here you can read the latest announcements of special importance. This may include notice of changes to the clubsmartcar website or very special events in the smart community. You will also find our rules of conduct and other general information about the site. Only Mods can initiate posts in this forum. (If you have an announcement talk to your local mod and ask them to post it for you.)

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    2. Site Feedback

      Here you can discuss issues related to the website or forums.

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    3. Introduce Yourself

      Come say Hi! Start your own thread, introduce yourself, post updates and pictures, check out the history of other members.

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  2. Smart Car Discussions

    1. One-off Questions and Other Things Asked Often!

      This forum is dedicated to answering quick questions from new members and old members alike. If you have no inclination to search for answers and more thorough explanations in another dedicated forum, then this is the place to post. Must be smart car related! Inappropriate content will be deleted without warning.

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    2. General Discussions

      Topics in this forum should be of general interest and directly related to the smart car community, but don't belong in one of our many specific forums elsewhere on the site. Please do NOT post topics in here about maintenance and operation, or parts, wheels and cars for sale, Those topics will be moved without notice. New and old members alike should post in the 'One-off Questions and Other Things Asked Often!' forum if just wanting to ask quick one-off types of questions, or to ask for help with something.

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    3. In News & Entertainment

      Press releases, articles, publication reviews, on television, as seen in the entertainment industry... What's being said about the smart car and by who? Find out.

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    4. enviro-mileage

      Visit this forum to learn more about the smart car's fuel economy, emissions, and ecological impacts. Members can also share their mileage results and learn about ways of driving their smart efficiently. This is also a forum to discuss vehicle (and driver!) modifications related to improving fuel economy, and any instrumentation devices used to monitor fuel economy in realtime, such as the Scangauge.

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    5. Vehicle Distribution and Tracking

      This forum is for discussion about the production and distribution of smart cars. If you want to know the quantity of vehicles in each province or country, visit here! We maintain lists of special edition smarts, often with the VIN # when possible. This is also the place to visit if you need help with tracking your smartie. It could be in the factory, on a ship, on a train -- or at your dealership!

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  3. Technical Discussions

    1. Operation and Maintenance: 450 Model, 2005-2006, diesel

      For General Operation and Maintenance discussions specific to the 450 cdi (diesel) sold in Canada as 2005 and 2006 models.

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    2. Operation and Maintenance: 451 Model, 2008-2015, gasoline

      For General Operation and Maintenance discussions specific to the 451 Model, sold in the US and Canada beginning with the 2008 model year and ending with the 2015 model year, gasoline engine only.

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    3. Modifications and Performance: 450 Model, 2005-2006, diesel

      For Modification and Performance discussions specific to the 450 cdi (diesel) sold in Canada as 2005 and 2006 models.

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    4. Modifications and Performance: 451 Model, 2008-2015, gasoline

      For General Operation and Maintenance discussions specific to the 451 Model, sold in the US and Canada beginning with the 2008 model year and and ending with the 2015 model year, gasoline engine only.

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    5. How-To: 450 Model, 2005-2006, diesel

      How-To Technical Articles specific to the 450 cdi (diesel) sold in Canada as 2005 and 2006 models.

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    6. How-To: 451 Model, 2008-2015, gasoline

      For General Operation and Maintenance discussions specific to the 451 Model, sold in the US and Canada beginning with the 2008 model year and ending with the 2015, gasoline engine only.

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    7. Electric Drive

      A forum to discuss the smart Electric Drive and its technical aspects

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    8. Fortwo 453 - 2016 and newer

      A forum for discussions surrounding the 453 model smart fortwo and its technical aspects

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  4. CsC Community Discussions

    1. Auto Talk

      This forum is for all discussions about non-smart automobiles - technical characteristics, marketing, opinions, new technology, your other cars and more!

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    2. Community Chatter

      For off-topic posting. NO POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS PERMITTED. Have something to say that isn't quite related to smart cars such as a marriage or birth announcement? While not "everything" goes, this is the place to post topics that don't really belong in one of the other forums.

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    3. Eco-Matters

      A place to discuss the environment and our impact on it. Not necessarily smart car specific but topics should be of interest to the smart car community.

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  5. Market Place

    1. Buyer's Guide

      A place to talk about smart car configurations, options & accessories to help you in your big decision. Also a place to discuss the various aspects of acquiring parts or vehicles, how to price a used vehicle, and things to look for when purchasing a used smart.

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    2. Member Classifieds - Parts and Accessories

      This is the Buy & Sell forum for smart car parts and accessories including wheels and tires. No commercial posts permitted in this forum. Listings of smart cars for sale are now in a dedicated forum.

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    3. Member Classifieds - smart cars for sale

      This is the Buy & Sell forum for personal listings of smart cars for sale. No dealer listings permitted in this forum.
      Before posting, please read the topic titled "PLEASE READ FIRST" to understand how to format your listing.

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    4. Self Promotion

      Looking for something special for your smart? This is where you'll find it. Have a smart car related business? This is the place to advertise it. Note: All posts must contain item description and pricing as opposed to linking elsewhere. Posts with links only will be deleted.

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    5. Dealer Showroom

      Dealers selling smart cars post offers and ads here.

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    6. Stuff I've Found / Stuff I'm Looking For

      A place to post links or info about parts, accessories, tools... anything really... that you found a good deal on or that you are trying to locate. Or if you want to give a shout out to a business that treated you right. No commercial posting allowed!

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    7. Trading Post

      Karma Based Area to trade/swap/give away smart car stuff - not for stuff to sell!

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  6. Regional Forums

    1. Canada Wide Events and Trip Reports

      This forum is for discussion of Canada Wide events. Feel free to post your cross-Canada trip reports here with photos.

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    2. Southern Ontario

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for Southern Ontario, including London and all places between Niagara and Windsor and north to Tobermory. Excludes the Greater Toronto Area.

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    3. Ottawa, Toronto and The Rest of Ontario

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all places in Ontario between the Greater Toronto Area and Ottawa, including Hamilton, Burlington, Barrie, Belleville, Kingston and then west to the Manitoba border.

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    4. Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands

      smart Marmot's Lair - This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions on Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands

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    5. The Rest of British Columbia

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all areas of BC outside of Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands.

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    6. The Prairies

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all places in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba

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    7. Atlantic Canada - Quebec to Cape Spear

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all areas of Quebec, New Brunswick, PEI, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador

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    8. United States and The Rest of the World

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all areas outside of Canada.

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  • Recent Posts

    • Hah, I knew it had a name but couldn't recall it. Dito. 
    • Here's a pic of the cleaned nozzles, for those curious how it turned out. Did not remove the nozzles, instead dipped them in the ultrasonic cleaner, submerging the entire nozzle in the solution. Spent close to an hour with soap and water (left nozzle). The same for the right nozzle but also added it to a baby bottle with gasoline in it, placed in the sonic bath for another 15 min and it came out even cleaner. The shiny sheen is gone, holes are now clearly visible.    Wish that these weren't so incredibly hard to take apart. Would have been great to spray some wd40 through the nozzle to check the spray pattern. But seeing how the car only has 102,000km, I don't suppose it's necessary to take them apart in order to fit in new nozzles. Bet that the decent bath they got should suffice for the time being.  
    • A new day, a new update, another question: how important is the injector o'ring (see pic below)   Today I finally removed all the injectors, cleaned them, put them back with new crush washers from Merc. Threw away the upside down fuel lines and replaced those with new ones that weren't deformed. Tried to start the car, still no go. Mind you, it was -1C in the evening and I had not plugged the car in seeing how the block heater doesn't seem to be working. But even at -1 I figure the car should have started after a few tries. It felt as though it would start after nearly draining the battery, so things aren't worse then before. They're just about the same, which was a bit disappointing. Thought for sure that the clean injectors nozzle and new injector crush washers would make a diff.    Then it had me thinking: could the lack of the o'rings be letting compression by? None of the injectors had o'rings on. It looked as though the middle injector bay/hole had the o'ring stuck in the groove. Felt it with a dentist's pick, it appears to be there but wasn't certain on that. The other two holes had clean grooves, for sure no o'rings there.   So, how important are these o'rings and could this be the reason for the hesitant start, possibly due to loss of compression? If so, can I get these from Merc? Or can I fit different o'rings in place?   The pic below is from the injector on the right side of the engine. Yaikes. Looked far better after the nozzle spent close to an hour on an ultra sonic bath with water and soap. Then a 15 minute bath in gasoline, in the ultra sonic cleaner. Came out so clean I can easily see the holes with a magnifying glass. But should I be worried about all that carbon on the nozzle? Is it normal for it to have this much carbon? It looks like the PO had the injectors removed at some point, the white goo in the pic is an indication of that and also the missing o'ring. The crush washers were also in place. 
    • there has to be something worn out or broken...or the battery was changed and is not the correct size 
    • ok i think he may have a smart 453