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  1. Welcome

    1. Special Announcements

      Here you can read the latest announcements of special importance. This may include notice of changes to the clubsmartcar website or very special events in the smart community. You will also find our rules of conduct and other general information about the site. Only Mods can initiate posts in this forum. (If you have an announcement talk to your local mod and ask them to post it for you.)

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    2. Site Feedback

      Here you can discuss issues related to the website or forums.

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    3. Introduce Yourself

      Come say Hi! Start your own thread, introduce yourself, post updates and pictures, check out the history of other members.

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  2. Smart Car Discussions

    1. One-off Questions and Other Things Asked Often!

      This forum is dedicated to answering quick questions from new members and old members alike. If you have no inclination to search for answers and more thorough explanations in another dedicated forum, then this is the place to post. Must be smart car related! Inappropriate content will be deleted without warning.

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    2. General Discussions

      Topics in this forum should be of general interest and directly related to the smart car community, but don't belong in one of our many specific forums elsewhere on the site. Please do NOT post topics in here about maintenance and operation, or parts, wheels and cars for sale, Those topics will be moved without notice. New and old members alike should post in the 'One-off Questions and Other Things Asked Often!' forum if just wanting to ask quick one-off types of questions, or to ask for help with something.

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    3. In News & Entertainment

      Press releases, articles, publication reviews, on television, as seen in the entertainment industry... What's being said about the smart car and by who? Find out.

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    4. enviro-mileage

      Visit this forum to learn more about the smart car's fuel economy, emissions, and ecological impacts. Members can also share their mileage results and learn about ways of driving their smart efficiently. This is also a forum to discuss vehicle (and driver!) modifications related to improving fuel economy, and any instrumentation devices used to monitor fuel economy in realtime, such as the Scangauge.

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    5. Vehicle Distribution and Tracking

      This forum is for discussion about the production and distribution of smart cars. If you want to know the quantity of vehicles in each province or country, visit here! We maintain lists of special edition smarts, often with the VIN # when possible. This is also the place to visit if you need help with tracking your smartie. It could be in the factory, on a ship, on a train -- or at your dealership!

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  3. Technical Discussions

    1. Operation and Maintenance: 450 Model, 2005-2006, diesel

      For General Operation and Maintenance discussions specific to the 450 cdi (diesel) sold in Canada as 2005 and 2006 models.

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    2. Operation and Maintenance: 451 Model, 2008-2015, gasoline

      For General Operation and Maintenance discussions specific to the 451 Model, sold in the US and Canada beginning with the 2008 model year and ending with the 2015 model year, gasoline engine only.

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    3. Modifications and Performance: 450 Model, 2005-2006, diesel

      For Modification and Performance discussions specific to the 450 cdi (diesel) sold in Canada as 2005 and 2006 models.

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    4. Modifications and Performance: 451 Model, 2008-2015, gasoline

      For General Operation and Maintenance discussions specific to the 451 Model, sold in the US and Canada beginning with the 2008 model year and and ending with the 2015 model year, gasoline engine only.

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    5. How-To: 450 Model, 2005-2006, diesel

      How-To Technical Articles specific to the 450 cdi (diesel) sold in Canada as 2005 and 2006 models.

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    6. How-To: 451 Model, 2008-2015, gasoline

      For General Operation and Maintenance discussions specific to the 451 Model, sold in the US and Canada beginning with the 2008 model year and ending with the 2015, gasoline engine only.

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    7. Electric Drive

      A forum to discuss the smart Electric Drive and its technical aspects

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    8. Fortwo 453 - 2016 and newer

      A forum for discussions surrounding the 453 model smart fortwo and its technical aspects

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  4. CsC Community Discussions

    1. Auto Talk

      This forum is for all discussions about non-smart automobiles - technical characteristics, marketing, opinions, new technology, your other cars and more!

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    2. Community Chatter

      For off-topic posting. NO POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS PERMITTED. Have something to say that isn't quite related to smart cars such as a marriage or birth announcement? While not "everything" goes, this is the place to post topics that don't really belong in one of the other forums.

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    3. Eco-Matters

      A place to discuss the environment and our impact on it. Not necessarily smart car specific but topics should be of interest to the smart car community.

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  5. Market Place

    1. Buyer's Guide

      A place to talk about smart car configurations, options & accessories to help you in your big decision. Also a place to discuss the various aspects of acquiring parts or vehicles, how to price a used vehicle, and things to look for when purchasing a used smart.

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    2. Member Classifieds - Parts and Accessories

      This is the Buy & Sell forum for smart car parts and accessories including wheels and tires. No commercial posts permitted in this forum. Listings of smart cars for sale are now in a dedicated forum.

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    3. Member Classifieds - smart cars for sale

      This is the Buy & Sell forum for personal listings of smart cars for sale. No dealer listings permitted in this forum.
      Before posting, please read the topic titled "PLEASE READ FIRST" to understand how to format your listing.

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    4. Self Promotion

      Looking for something special for your smart? This is where you'll find it. Have a smart car related business? This is the place to advertise it. Note: All posts must contain item description and pricing as opposed to linking elsewhere. Posts with links only will be deleted.

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    5. Dealer Showroom

      Dealers selling smart cars post offers and ads here.

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    6. Stuff I've Found / Stuff I'm Looking For

      A place to post links or info about parts, accessories, tools... anything really... that you found a good deal on or that you are trying to locate. Or if you want to give a shout out to a business that treated you right. No commercial posting allowed!

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    7. Trading Post

      Karma Based Area to trade/swap/give away smart car stuff - not for stuff to sell!

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  6. Regional Forums

    1. Canada Wide Events and Trip Reports

      This forum is for discussion of Canada Wide events. Feel free to post your cross-Canada trip reports here with photos.

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    2. Southern Ontario

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for Southern Ontario, including London and all places between Niagara and Windsor and north to Tobermory. Excludes the Greater Toronto Area.

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    3. Ottawa, Toronto and The Rest of Ontario

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all places in Ontario between the Greater Toronto Area and Ottawa, including Hamilton, Burlington, Barrie, Belleville, Kingston and then west to the Manitoba border.

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    4. Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands

      smart Marmot's Lair - This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions on Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands

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    5. The Rest of British Columbia

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all areas of BC outside of Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands.

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    6. The Prairies

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all places in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba

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    7. Atlantic Canada - Quebec to Cape Spear

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all areas of Quebec, New Brunswick, PEI, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador

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    8. United States and The Rest of the World

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all areas outside of Canada.

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  • Recent Posts

    • Good, as this means I have one less hurdle to deal with. How confusing is this? Call up Napa as I read here that they have the best prices on filters for the 450. Am quoted $46.10 for one and $85.63 for the other. Dude can't tell me if it has the opening for the water probe, the pic in his computer doesn't show a top view. Tells me my best bet it to drive across town to the only franchisee that has one in stock, and to another for the other in order to confirm if this is the right filter.    Call up a Merc dealership and am quoted $24.71 for the fuel filter. He too cannot answer if it has the insert for the water sensor but insists that this is the right filter for my car, based on the VIN. And this isn't even the dealership with the best prices for parts, out of the 3 in town.    Glad this is a headache I don't have to incur. At least if one can trust the sensor to be doing its job, now that the wiring has been rectified.   Incidentally, Napa wants $20 for an oil filter while Merc only charges exactly half that. Go figure.
    • Yes, bettery was removed. A necessity in order to access the white socket. And I always unplug it before even disconnecting any socket, I'm now paranoid I'm gonna fry something or activate a warning light that you can't turn off (here looking at you, airbag light - literally, each time I start the car). I also don't spray contact cleaner after your experience. I spray a tiny amount on a toothbrush and gently clean contacts that way.    Yes, new crush washers installed on all 3 injectors, concave side facing up. I truly don't think the injector nozzles are the issue but compared to timing, I sure hope they are. If so, no biggie, will remove them and attempt to take them apart and install new nozzles. If it wasn't so damn difficult I'd have done that by now. I do have a decent torch that I can heat up the area around the threads and a vise that I can secure the injector in, while cranking with a breaker bar. So it's doable. It's just something I was hoping I could get away without doing. But as proven, what I have done hasn't paid dividends.   Going to open up one of 3 silver boxes now. Found this third one in the car, behind the passenger seat, along with the ECU that attaches to the airbox. Looks like PO bought a few parts from the wreckers but never installed them. Good thing, seeing how he didn't save the wires for the ECU.    Tomorrow I hope to have a friend mechanic look at the car. If there's an issue with timing, he's the guy would pick up on it (he did the timing in my diesel Rabbit and mk4 TDI Jetta, something few around here can do properly). He has some fancy high tech microscope that can check for timing without taking the motor apart. Compared to the cost/headache of replacing a timing chain, etc, I'd gladly attempt to take apart injectors using my teeth. If it came to replacing a timing chain would have to carefully consider our options with my better half. But lets not fret till tomorrow after he looks at it. But yes, he now has me scared shitless. 
    • You may find that the fuel isn't getting atomized correctly by the injectors and it's raw fuel or un burnt fuel smoke you're seeing. It is a dirty diesel after all. IMHO, if you can't see it in the daylight it isn't smoking badly enough to say it's an oil burner. Yes that white plug has something to do with the fuel sensor and the dash light, imho as mine did the same thing. I would open up the silver box and check to see what it looks like inside. Mine looked like new on the outside but was all covered in white crud inside. It washed off using some soap and a toothbrush, then I used nail polish to re seal the board.  Clear.  There is a grounding pin under the engine compartment lip. It's at roughly the 11 o'clock position under the front edge of the bodywork in front of the inter cooler. It's a usual bad ground position. Also check main ground cable from engine to bodywork.,     I worry that you are going to burn out your starter by working it so hard...?  I expect you have installed the crush washers under your injectors?   Have you checked the glow plug resistances yet..?   .9 ..?    Just curious.....when you cut these connectors off, etc, you do disconnect the battery correct...?    One zap will fry your computers.....worst case..?  
    • U kidding me? You have helped me solve tons of things. Your input and that of other members have been invaluable. The reason why I have devoted each and every day to this project for the past couple of weeks as now I have the confidence to tackle it, feel like I am in good hands. Really appreciate all the help from everyone here. Car still needs attention but I an't going nowhere. Cheers