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  1. These have been in storage since I returned my ED on end of lease. The not many miles but the rubber may be getting old. "roadster" steel rims (I think). Moving and need to get rid of them. Hope someone can get some use out of them. Kingston Ontario.
  2. The damage is likely limited to just the plug. Contact resistance or an arc while plugging/unplugging. Get someone competent to replace the plug and you should be good to go.
  3. I'm going with perception. When I first got the car and tromped it - "Holy sh*t!". Now it is more like "Yup - there we go :)". I want to say that the performance is down - but I'm quite sure I have just gotten used to it. Chirping the tires has too many variables to use as a guage of course. The only way is to measure it. And how many of us put it through measured acceleration when it was new?
  4. I confess that I frequently engage the detent But I seldom get wheel spin unless I do it on a corner (merging onto a busy street). I don't think I have done a full ludicrous mode stomp though - quick but no stomp.
  5. Don't get me wrong @smartElectric, I'm not arguing against the cost savings. I just want to make sure that any numbers that we put out there can't be jumped on the way we are jumping on the OP statement of electricity costs. Philosophically I'm opposed to the cost comparisons. As you said the fun of the electric car is worth paying MORE for. But if we are talking costs... I found this tool: http://www.ontarioenergyboard.ca/OEB/Consumers/Electricity/Your+Electricity+Utility Plugged in numbers appropriate for my situation with a consumption of 500Kwh with about 66%off peak. Did another run with 510Kwh and played with the time of day distribution to get that extra 10 assigned to off peak. End result suggested the marginal off-peak rate, all in, was about 17 cents per Kwh. Good enough for discussions. Tough for nay-sayers to shoot down. Over the last 3000km I've been averaging 15.8Kwh/100Km so $0.027 per kilometer. Sound right? Total spend on warranty maintenance over 30 months $250. And that is a bit of a rip off IMHO. But I'm on lease so I have to follow the recommended schedule.
  6. OMG, made me laugh. Really you say "to be fair", and then list a bill with $28 of electricity?! For REAL?! $28 in electricity is about 150 kWh of electricity over one month, or about 5 kWh of electricity per day. GIVE ME A BREAK! The average household uses ~20 kWh per day. My Ontario electricity bill shows that I pay $0.138 all-in (taxes, distribution, etc) for my overnight electricity. We use a "normal" amount of electricity, so that is being "fair". That comes across as a very demeaning response @smartelectric. My point is that the advertised electricity price is only a part of the cost of hydro - that delivery, regulatory fees, debt reduction, delivery and tax increase that significantly. It should not be used calculate cost per Km. You will note that I was confused by my own calculation and was sure it was wrong. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. That which I grabbed as the electricity cost was not a subtotal it was the off-peak. So it was artificially low by about $12. Since we charge our cars generally at night at the 9 cent rate we would have to get complicated to properly calculate the cost per KW. I got lazy and just used a multiplier. There a fixed part and a variable to the extra charges. Without knowing what the fixed portion is are only estimating. The shouldn't taken into consideration when calculating our cost/kwh. We pay that whether we charge or not. Some studying of the OEB website might make that possible but I'm not in the mood. BTW - back then my average was $0.21/Kwh. That is with 2/3 being off peak (7.5cents) I'm definitely on the low side of that "normal" consumption. 12-17Kwh/day. The effect of those fixed costs hit the low consumer harder than the "normal" consumers.
  7. To be fair Marc, the numbers you are quoting are the result of misleading advertising. That is the OPG portion of the bill - what we pay for the electricity itself. After the last price hike that stands at 8.7 off peak, 13.2 mid peak, 18 peak. But, and its a big but, there are all sorts of other fees added to your bill. Distribution, Debt reduction ... Take your bill and divide the cost by kw/hrs. You will find you wind up paying double that amount especially if you are heavily biased to off peak. edit: I stand corrected. It doesn't double. found an old bill - haven't been saving them lately. The electricity portion was $28 . The final bill amount was $109 - pretty close to 4 times the electricity cost = ) So, for argument's sake, if say about 4 cent per kilometer and diesel is about $1.00/L and the cdi does about 4L/100km That's $4/100k or 4 cents per kilometer??? That can't be right. What have I done wrong? Last time I did this calc electricity worked out to be a third of diesel.
  8. What happened to your transmission Darren?
  9. thank you @smartdriver very interesting numbers. More or less what I was expected when I entered into my lease. As the technology moves forward first generation (well technically 3rd generation but first USABLE generation has to depreciated rapidly. Why settle for 120km when 300km technology is almost here. Don't get me wrong - I still think 120km is more than enough in a two car family. But with 300km we start looking at electric as an "only car". In a way I'm rather glad to see that used electric cars will be available to a wider customer base. You do have to wonder though what that is going to do to future lease rates. Some nit picking: You can't call the bolt/3 $30,000 cars without the disclaimer "after incentives in $US." In the case of the model 3 I doubt very much whether any 3's will go out the door at $30K. You want the winter package - that will be extra. You want supercharger access - that will be extra. You want "driver assist" (I won't use Tesla's term - too misleading!) - that will be extra. In Canada, with the current exchange rate I would suggest a budget of about $50K prior to gov't incentives. So out the door around $40K in Ontario. Like Darren I will be turning mine in this November. It will be a very sad moment for me but my circumstances have changed and I can't justify having two cars anymore. I still love the smart - I have over 12 years between the 450 and the ED. I just don't think the engineers will be able to pack the magic 300KM fast charge into such a small package. Interesting times!
  10. That's an interesting number @tolsoen I don't think I've seen one that low before. It must be some sort of attempt to factor in losses in power generation/transmission/charging/discharging... The source of the electric power must be considered to be very low efficiency to drive it down that far. Where I live a lot of our electricity is hydro electric so there is virtually no energy loss in production. Coal or oil fired generators of course would really start driving the overall efficiency down. Nominal efficiency of a large electric motor is usually stated in the 90% range. That compares to 45% for the TDI, 30% for gasoline engine. There are of course on board losses in heat generated in the charging of the battery and then again on discharge but that should be minimal. I can't find any numbers for that other than "near 100%" on charging. On discharge there is definitely heat generated so there are losses there. We know that because tesla has to limit use of "ludicrous mode" to prevent battery overheating. in normal driving though I would expect it is close to 100% as well. Really the only comparison between the two technologies would be energy in (gas/diesel/electricity) to miles driven. Then add the energy required to produce and deliver that energy. I can't give good scientific analysis but my gut says the electric cycle has to win hands down. Regenerative braking, no energy consumed at idle or coast - it has to work out in the electric car's favor. I loved my 450TDI (almost 10 years) and reveled in its efficiency (except in winter when there was no waste heat to keep me warm!). But the last three years in the ED has taken the fun to a whole new level. Quiet, simple and goes like stink! and I can be smug and say I'm doing the "right thing" for the environment. What's not to like?
  11. Good lord! Are we still debating TCO of electric cars vrs ICE? Thought we moved passed that long time ago. We buy cars within our budget based on what we need, what we like - what makes us feel good. Try telling a Porsche owner that he is crazy for buying a carrera when a miata has much lower TCO. That said, the TCO story is getting better and better as economies of scale start kicking in. $250 for 3 years of maintenance certainly helps in the equation. But that is just the icing on the cake. It is all about how much you enjoy the driving experience. The ED still puts a smile on my face particularly when I put the pedal to the metal moving away from an intersection. So for me the electric car has been a big winner. The debate of government subsidies is a righteous one but don't use it to cast dispersion on the electric car technologies. Governments have always, and will always, use incentives to accomplish their political agenda. If you think Wynne is making bad decisions you have the right to replace her with someone who thinks more like you do. Someone will certainly correct me if I'm wrong but... despite that email's SCREAMING IN UPPER CASE, the green plan is supposed to be revenue neutral with the carbon tax paying for the incentive program. Yes, it is another tax, and nobody likes paying more tax. But we are not accumulating more debt because of the incentive program. @SmartElectric. Some thoughtful writing in you blog. Thanks for that.
  12. In terms of the limited space in the smart we should be looking at the density in terms of kWh/cubic meter, not kWh/lb. the challenge is fitting more kWh in the same space.
  13. A big me too on this. Available in Europe - just needs re-gigging for our power supply. I don't know if they can find space in the 453 for significantly more range. Energy density just hasn't gone up that quickly. Perhaps marginal increases will be available but I'm not optimistic about 200K. But if we could get the car charged more quickly that would be great. Doing something creative with heat would be great too! Radiant? Heat pump? liquid fuel? The smart ED will probably always be a niche car primarily used as a second car in the family. Well, as the first car in a two car family . My lease is up next November and I may get caught in the "we're almost there" syndrome. Bolt on the horizon, tesla "3" on the horizon, VW hippie van on the horizon... I'll either try to extend my lease or drop back to one car and let things shape up. Problem is that once you've gone electric you can never go back!
  14. Great to hear! I wonder... Do you leave the fan turned on? Manual says it doesn't matter but I know mine was off for the test. Another test coming up;)
  15. I ran a test last night on a full battery - no preheat kicked in. Temps should all have been good, no battery issues, ... Flakey. Does anyone know if there is a screen with the interior cabin temp?