451 - CEL came on last night

[Nextourer 1]

Hmm... only 800kms in and the CEL came on last night. I didn't notice anything peculiar. No weird engine noises, it does have a burnt oil smell but I think someone said that was normal. The tank had 1 bar left, topped it up this morning and the CEL is still there.Appointment made for Friday morning.In the meantime, anybody have any ideas? Something loose maybe?Edit: Also, as you can see, I finally have a reading from Spritmonitor as it's my second tank. I pumped 29.161 litres.... in a 33 litre tank... Isn't there a 5 litre countdown?

Edited May 22, 2008 by Nextourer

[Bobberforever 0]

Hmm... only 800kms in and the CEL came on last night...

Same thing append to me last night. With only 1900kms. The car runs fine! I'll get an appointment. Let us know what was the problem, I'll do the same.

[Duck 16]

I had to think about this for 3 minutes or so until I figured out it meant "Check Engine Light". lol-Iain

[Tom P. 0]

My 451 starts counting down at 3.0 L. left in the tank.

[Talgas 0]

Mine starts at 3.5LAlso... my check engine light also came on (around 3000km I think) a couple of weeks ago. It was a valve in the secondary air injection system (maybe the secondary air cross over valve as mentioned above). It was an easy swap for the shop to do. The tech told me there was no problem to drive my car while waiting for the part... no engine damage, fuel economy not affected etc. I actually got 5.18L/100km on the highway with the CEL on, so it couldn't have been to bad. But it's all fixed now and I'm a happy camper again.Craig

Edited May 22, 2008 by Talgas

[crankin 0]

It's probably the secondary air cross over valve. We have seen alot of those go bad here. A very quick and easy fix, but disheartening. smart is well aware of this, so I can't imagine a redesign for this component isn't already in the works. Please let us know what the diagnosis is and good luck.

What he said. Air valve under warranty took 4hours....zero problems since for me.

[Nextourer 1]

Mine starts at 3.5LAlso... my check engine light also came on (around 3000km I think) a couple of weeks ago. It was a valve in the secondary air injection system (maybe the secondary air cross over valve as mentioned above). It was an easy swap for the shop to do. The tech told me there was no problem to drive my car while waiting for the part... no engine damage, fuel economy not affected etc. I actually got 5.18L/100km on the highway with the CEL on, so it couldn't have been to bad. But it's all fixed now and I'm a happy camper again.Craig

What he said. Air valve under warranty took 4hours....zero problems since for me.

What they said. I took the car in today and it's the secondary air injection pump.hmm.. so 3 or 3.5L? hahahaha.... time to check the manual I guess

[smartzuuk 167]

And so... what were the codes? No codes, nothing to talk about... could have been anything really. No symptoms?

[crankin 0]

Unfortunatatley no scanguage, but I was told it recirulates emissions to burn....thats why I never noticed any lack of performance. New gas engines believe it or not are more similar to the regen diesels than any of us want to believe.

[Nextourer 1]

And so... what were the codes? No codes, nothing to talk about... could have been anything really. No symptoms?

Retrieved Code: #P0410Does that help?

[MikeT 744]

Secondary air injection system malfunction.

Edited May 24, 2008 by Mike T

[Nextourer 1]

hahaha ok. Well then... that's that!

[smartzuuk 167]

I have a P0410 that will not clear on my 451... anyway, it's going to the dealer soon for service.