My other car - 2007 Toyota Yaris

[yellow bumble bee 3]

Hi againWell year 2 of our long term trial with the Yaris has come and gone.Car now has 41,742 Kms on the odometer15,374 Kms for year twoFuel costs of $942.81Lifetime average of 5.98 litres per 100 KmMaintenance and Repairs31,751 Km - 32,000 Km Maintenance service $137.7140,154 Km - 40,000 Km Oil and Filter change $ 46.9840,154 Km - Replace Front Windshield wiper Inserts $ 24.6240,260 Km - Touch up Paint Stick $ 15.21Total M&R $224.52Insurance for the year $1,013.00Total Costs $2,180.33Cost per Kilometre $0.14Roy

Edited July 28, 2009 by yellow bumble bee

[MikeT 744]

The oil was first changed at 32,000, then 40,000 and then again at 40,154?Did you do all the other oil changes DIY, or are you really that cruel to the car?

[booneylander 37]

That's just year 2. A link to year 1 would be handy.

[FlossyTheSmart 81]

Also, 40, 154 was just new wipers, not an oil change.But yes, a link to year one would be nice.

[yellow bumble bee 3]

Hi

I did search for last year's thread but could not find it. Yes this is the costs for year 2.

All services, unless otherwise noted, are done at the Toyota dealer. I am fast approaching 70 years of age, and my body is starting to protest mightily when I crawl under the smart or yaris to do maintenance or repairs.

Here is Year One of our long term trial with the Yaris.

Start Km - 18

End Km - 26,368

Kilometres driven - 26,350

Fuel costs - $1,786.87

Lifetime average 6.01 litres per 100 Kms

Maintenance and Repairs

8708 Kms - 8,000 Km Oil and Filter Change $46.98

8926 Kms - DIY Windshield Washer Fluid, Lock lube $10.21

17,641 Kms - 16,000 Km O&F Change, Tire Rotation $46.98

17,797 Kms - Repair chip in Windshield $61.60

18,063 Kms - Replace Right Front Tire - nail in sidewall - Covered under warranty

24,677 Kms - 24,000 Km Oil and Filter change $46.98

24,677 Kms - Paint touch up stick $14.62

Total maintenance and repairs $227.37

Insurance for the year $1012.00

Total Costs $3026.24

Cost per Kilometre - $0.12

Hope this helps to make it a little more clear.

Roy

Edited July 29, 2009 by yellow bumble bee

[MikeT 744]

OK that's better.My B 200 has cost $900 over two years and three services - the last at 50,000 (this last service takes it to 70,000 km). Twice as much money for something less than twice the distance....

[yellow bumble bee 3]

I know the price of maintenance for the yaris will go up. The first three services were just oil and filter changes. The service schedule for the yaris is every 8,000 Km while I believe the B200 is every 20,000 Km. The 48,000 Km service will be around $200.00, the 56,000 Km will be around $50.00 and the 64,000 Km will be around $150.00 if the Toyota dealer does them. So these costs should be added in if comparing your B200 and my Yaris; plus my wife would trade the yaris in on a B200 in a heartbeat. I like my smart and will continue to drive and enjoy it and pay whatever maintenance and repairs are needed. Some people tell me that the yaris is a cheap and easy car to maintain and if that is the case then how does the smart stack up against it in regards to maintenance and repairs. Now we will see.Roy

Edited July 29, 2009 by yellow bumble bee

[Nextourer 1]

Interesting. Here are my first year stats for my 2008 smartMileage: 12,085kmFuel cost: $997.06Service: $225.62Insurance: $2,068Repairs: $0 (blower motor, secondary air intake pump, transmission lever stuck, wiper hits window frame in "HI" mode, passion sticker coming undone, some play in the driver's seatback that isn't present in the passenger seatback)

[Francesco 71]

Wife: "Your smart's in the shop again???"

Me: "Yeah, but it's warranty so it's not costing anything."

Wife: "Yeah, but your smart's in the shop again???"

LMAO

[Duck 16]

Everyone at work and all my friends always say that to me... "Your car's in the shop AGAIN?"Phil's parents just roll their eyes now... they have the Plymoth Breeze his dad hardly drives anymore all lined up ready to give to us. :: shudders :: I'm not kidding.-Iain

[yellow bumble bee 3]

Well year three of our long term trial on the Toyota Yaris has come and gone. We have moved closer to town so there are shorter trips and more stop and go city traffic. The Yaris's FE should go up.

Start Km - 41,742

End Km - 61,848

Kilometres Driven - 20,106

Fuel Costs - $1199.55

Lifetime Average 6.01 litres per 100 Kilometres

Maintenance and Repairs

47,838 Kms - DIY - Changed air filter and Cabin air filter $60.76

48,338 Kms - Toyota - Rest of 48,000 Km Maintenance Service $87.31

55,859 Kms - DIY - Changed passenger side windshield wiper insert $3.36

56,513 Kms - Fountain Tire - 56,000 Km Lubrication Service $14.51

Total Maintenance and Repairs $165.94

Insurance for six months $554.00

Total Costs $1919.49

Cost per Kilometre $0.10 This would have been $0.12 - 0.13 if I had bought insurance for one year

Roy

Edited July 27, 2010 by yellow bumble bee

[Speedie 4]

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Hope this helps....

Cheers,

Cameron

[yellow bumble bee 3]

Well, hard to believe, year four now has now come and gone. One of my sons car has bit the dust and he has been using our car to get back and forth to work since March. Yearly mileage has gone up. He also has a more aggressive driving style then I do. Also driving back and forth to work more than 15 km each way has increased the insurance premium.

Start Km - 61,848

End Km- 86,345

Kilometres driven- 24,497

Fuel Costs-$1846.09

Lifetime FE- 6.11 litres per 100 kilometres

Maintenance and Repairs

65,182 - DIY - 64,000 Km Inspection - Replaced cabin air filter $34.28

65,315 - Valley Toyota - 64,000 Km Inspection - Maintenance Service $179.98

65,885 - Wally's Auto Body - Repair scrapes on right side of back bumper $717.44 (paid by ICBC)

68,956 - DIY - Replaced driver's side brake lightbulb $3.74 (first lightbulb replaced)

72,489 - Valley Toyota - 72,000 Km Inspection - Oil and filter service $52.68

76,392 - DIY - 3.78 litres of summer windshield washer fluid $2.21

80,244 - DIY - 80,000 Km Inspection - Replaced cabin air filter $34.28

80,487 - Valley Toyota - 80,000 Km Inspection - Maintenance service $177.27

80,489 - DIY - 80,000 Km Inspection - Replaced air filter $26.48

83,632 - DIY - Replaced driver's side windshield wiper $12.76

Total Maintenance and Repairs $1241.12 ( I paid $523.68 of this )

Insurance for nine months $1,056.00

Total Costs $4,146.73 ($3,429.29 if I leave out the ICBC claim )

Cost per Kilometre $0.17 ($0.14 if I leave out the ICBC claim) Probably around $0.15-$0.16 if pro rated insurance for one year.

Roy

Edited August 5, 2011 by yellow bumble bee

[yellow bumble bee 3]

Well Year 5 has come and gone a while back. Thought I had better update for Year 5.Start Km - 86,345End Km - 105,799Km Driven - 19,454Fuel Costs - $1498.48Lifetime FE 6.14 Litres per 100 KilometresMaintenance and Repairs88,377 - DIY - 88,000 Km Inspection - Oil and Filter service $ 17.7792,104 - DIY - Replaced passenger side brake lightbulb $ 3.5096,434 - Toyota - 96,000 Km Inspection - Maintenance Service $177.2496,884 - Broco Chilliwack - Replaced windshield $794.96 ICBC $594.96, Me $200.00 deductible104,142 - DIY - 104,000 Km Inspection - Oil and Filter service $ 13.59Total Maintenance and Repairs $1007.06 I paid $412.10 of thisInsurance for the year $1,151.23Total Costs $3,656.77 ($3,061.81 if I leave out what ICBC paid)Cost per Kilometre driven $0.19

[MikeT 744]

Your operating costs have gone up quite a bit, from a low of 12-13 cents/km to 19 cents/km. I see you haven't included depreciation. With depreciation, my old smart was at 21.2 cents/km over 250K km.The Fiesta services are going to cost more than for your Toyota, because I am using fully synthetic oil, and changing it at the same interval as your Toyota. The Ford is averaging about 0.1 L/100 km less than your car right now (this should improve with summer tires). Its dealer services are right cheap, even with synthetic oil: $115.

[Francesco 71]

A young lady with whom I work has a five-speed Fiesta SE. While she loves it, she has had a rash of issues with it in just 15000 km.

[MikeT 744]

Interesting. Ours has 17000 km and has been quite ok! Maybe hers has the powershift auto box. They are a bit of a problem.

[Huronlad 186]

Someone is bound to get a lemon, with every make and model. Subaru is recalling cars today because the key fob if dropped can cause cars equipped with remote starters to unintentionally start.The auto has 6 forward gears, yes?Francesco, what types of issues is your coworker experiencing? No start(s) like Mike T or something different?

[MikeT 744]

The PS transmission has 6 forward speeds, yes.

[Francesco 71]

Recurring CELs, windows that won't go down, sticky hatch release, rattling exhaust system, immo loses sync... It's a five-speed.

[MikeT 744]

Woo, I smell a lemon!

[bilgladstone 13]

Fix Or Repair Daily. I had one of those once.

B

[yellow bumble bee 3]

Hi MikeThe cost per Kilometre if I do not include the ICBC portion of repairs is $0.1574. This raise has mainly been caused by the extra insurance for my children to drive the car and the increase in the price of gas. I expect it to go up to around $0.25 per Kilometre once only my wife and I drive the car. Between the two of us we would only drive about 12,000 to 14,000 Km per year. A lot of this driving would be around Chilliwack on a cold engine.If I had included depreciation, the amount would be near $0.30 per Kilometre. The car cost just under $20,000 + $2,000 in taxes and fees + just under $2,000 to finance for 4 years - $1,000 I talked them down - $1,000 we got back from the Federal Government for fuel efficiency. So total cost was $22,000. The wholesale value for the car now, is around $6500 so I try not to think about depreciation.The service schedule for the Yaris is every 8,000 Km/6 months. This rotates between an Oil and Filter change service (cost around $52 with taxes and fees) and a Maintenance service (cost around $175 with taxes and fees). I had a dozen oil filters I bought in 2008 for about $4.50 apiece and last year when Walmart moved I bought 6, 5 litre jugs of Valvoline 5W30 conventional oil at under $10.00 a jug. I am using these for the Oil and Filter changes.Hope you have really good luck with your Fiesta. I will get my smart file up to date as well. My daughter is driving it full time now. And Bil, it also stands for Found On Road Dead.Roy

[yellow bumble bee 3]

Well Year 6 has come and gone. Hard to believe it has been six years. Start Km 105,799End Km 120,307Km Driven 14,508Fuel Costs $1,163.28FE 6.19 Litres per 100 KmsMaintenance and Repairs106,355 Km-DIY-Replaced battery in key $5.58106,497 Km-DIY-Replaced pass. side windshield wiper $13.45106,497 Km-DIY-Replaced driver's side windshield wiper $25.75107,360 Km-Wally Autobody-Repaired back bumper $1100.81 Paid for by ICBC112,485 Km-DIY-Replaced Cabin Air Filter $16.68112,919 Km-Toyota-Maintenance Service $166.14112,919 Km-Toyota-Replaced Serpentine Belt $99.49Total Maintenance and Repairs $1427.88I paid $327.07 of thisInsurance for the year $1353.54Insurance has gone up because my daughter is now driving this car and goes to work plus wants a lower deductible.Total Costs $3,944.70 ($2843.89 if I leave out what ICBC paid)Cost per Kilometre driven $0.27 ($0.20 if I leave out what ICBC paid)What happened this year.My wife was rear ended while pulling away from a stop light. On July 2/13 my daughter switched cars and she is driving this car.Most driving was around Chilliwack on a cold engine (FE up)What is going to happen in coming yearCar needs new tires, coming this fallMaybe new battery, but Toyota says the present one is still good.Front brake pads around 140,000 to 150,000 KmLike this car as a bland reliable driver but glad to have my smart back.Roy

Edited July 27, 2013 by yellow bumble bee