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smart sales in Canada and the U.S.A. 2015

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Going to get worse before they get better!

Lets hope so, if not I'm not sure how they can stay in Canada :icon_sad:

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The 453 is selling well where it is currently available. I expect when the 453 finally gets here it will sell as well or better than the 450 or 451. Unsure what the US will think of it.

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June 2015

Canada: 63

USA: 774

Inventory management in the Canadian situation seems a bit off, or maybe Canadians are just going off the 451 with the 453 expected soon? The same thing happened at the end of the 450's run, they dried up months before the 451 started coming in, and the reason in that case was insufficient inventory.

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With ICE models being built out and the ED models winding down and now finished, dealers have had not much to sell. The low numbers I think reflects the lack of product and July and August I expect will be even lower.

What will be interesting to see is how much product will appear for the launch of the 453 in September. I don't recall, but it is being launched in Canada in September too isn't it? :lookaround:

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So they say. But it can't be a good thing for the smart salespeople to have zilch to sell.

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They no longer have dedicated '' smart salespeople.''

They really don't care.

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Fair, I haven't been in a smart showroom for years.

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I was at the new London Mercedes dealer on Friday seeking info on the ED. Was told there is no smart specialist because there is ''no volume''.

The Mercedes are flying out the door of that fancy place.

They don't care about the lowly smart.

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July 2015

Canada: 77

USA: 440

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I missed the update for August. Here goes:

USA: 617

Canada: 66

September:

USA: 750

Canada: 39

The Canadian total is atrocious, the 453 can't get into the showrooms fast enough!

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Moving up in Canada again but it'd be nice to see it in the hundreds!

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There are a little over 300 453 in Canada, so there is at least something available to sell in November.

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November 2015:

USA: 662
Canada: 59 - of which 11 were 451 EDs, so 48 453s..

Hmm, things are not looking all that good for the 453 so far. Maybe Schaefca at SCoA is right :P

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It's definitely slow here in Vancouver, hopefully it will pick up =*(. I have yet to see one 453 besides my own...driving around town.

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New Smarts are unreliable and overprised piles of junk. That is why nobody buys them.

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Someone's been in the whisky!

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The 451 and 453 are worst than 450 for reliability ?? :hm:

Yes they are. Also ugly to look at so why buy them them?

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From what i see here, a lot more people have problems with the 450 than 451..

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The 451 suffers broken pinion drive on clutch actuator. Pinion is too weak and just snaps off leaving you stranded and no less than £600 out of pocket.

The stop start 451 suffers from a really bad design pulley drive for the combined starter alternator causing belt to snap off. No fix to date that Smart has rolled out has cured the problem. There is no warning, not even a charge light, so drivers usually notice nothing before engine has overheated or self destructed. Repairs can come to thousands of pounds.

The 450 however, is remarkably reliable as long as properly maintained. The best and smartest car I have ever owned.

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The diesel 450 is by far the worst car I have ever owned. I do nothing but repair and maintain it, I have hundreds of man hours into it, and thousands of dollars. My Cadillac has over 250,000km, and I have done oil changes, brakes and a PS pump. My inlaws Corolla has 450,000 km, and has needed shocks and brakes.....

I've never seen a car take so much and give so little.

I love it though, don't get me wrong. :)

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The stop/start is not available in the US or Canada so is not relevant to this thread.

Closing in on 140k km on my 451 clutch actuator. My 451 has been nearly bullet proof in comparison to my 450. It is so pleasant in the 451 to go more than a few months in between maintenance that would be required by the 450. The 450 is a very needy car.

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