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Will not crank

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So last year a bought  a 2006 smart car, had a seized alternator. Thanks to the fine folks here I got it running and sold the car in the summer.

 

Since than I have missed the smart car, so a few days ago I bought another! This one is a 2006 CDI, and it does not crank. I think this is caused by a bad solenoid connection on the started as I hear the Sam relay click but no cranking, Does anyone have a good photo of where this solenoid is so i can try jiggling the connection before i drop the motor in -10C weather!

 

Thanks again to all the help this forum has given me! 

 

 

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i dont have pictures but last month i had to wiggle mine and was able to do it right in the parking lot with a flashlight and a very long 1/4 inch extension

 

you can see it from the top way down past the harness that feeds the injectors and glow plugs..best to do in the dark with a flashlight to see down there

 

 

 

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Looking from the engine bay it is on the right hand side. Its buried by the AC compressor, water inlet and alternator.

You really need to drop the engine to access it.

The dealer charges 5-6 hrs to replace. Its a bitch of a job.

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You need to lower the motor to access the starter. It is tightly tucked directly in the center of the motor behind the water pump and above the alternator.

Lowering bolts are needed to assist to make re installing easier . You can also push start the car if all the electronics are working. Put it in 2nd gear.

The larger Blue wire in the wiring harness above the inter cooler is the solenoid wire. You will need to open  the wire loom to locate it.

If you are getting  power there your solenoid or starter is the problem. If you are not getting power then your SAM unit maybe the culprit.

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The SAM output to the starter solenoid is on connector N11-6 Pin 1.

 

Measuring the voltage there when starting the car would determine if the SAM is OK or if it is starter related. 

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yes you need to lower the engine to change the starter

 

but if you just need to jiggle the connection it is completely accessible from above with a long tool such as an extra long screwdriver (or like i said i used above a long 1/4 drive extension)..and some patience

 

...its just really hard to see if youre not sure what youre looking for

 

the solenoid has a simple male terminal and the wire you want to jiggle is a plastic connector with a simple female connector inside it...

 

its a tight spot ...i think you have to look thru the intake runners .

 

the top of the solenoid will be very near the level where the head meets the block...the solenoid connector youre looking to wiggle will be almost centered with center cylindore bore

 

here is a picture posted elsewhere on this forum that might help guide you if you decide to try looking again 

 

 

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Injector circuit could also be an issue if suddenly stopped after checking all else.

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3 hours ago, tolsen said:

You can reach in by removing rhs rear wheel arch. 

 

thanks..thats good to know

 

i still need to get in there to clean and put some grease on my connector ....the last wiggle is still working good but i know it wont last long 

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