· #1 Posted December 27, 2017 · Report post Hello and Thank You for letting me join. I’m here doing research on 05/06 model yrs. The plan is to buy one in the near future so that we can tow behind our motorhome. If you have ant experience with this please let me know. Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #2 Posted December 27, 2017 · Report post Towing on a trailer is OK, otherwise it's prohibited by the manufacturer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #3 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post Yup I knew that but 100s if not 1000s are being towed flat 4 behind motorhomes all across North America . The only issue that I have found on many RV forums was someone who admitted they left the car in Park. So we will be towing flat 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #4 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post The majority if not all fortwos being towed four down are 451s not 450s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #5 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post Yes, the 451 can be flat towed safely; the 450 cannot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #6 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post Well don’t I feel dum. I guess that is why I came here. Thank You Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #7 Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) · Report post ok can I get some more input. I found this disucsion on this topic. Edited December 28, 2017 by LifeinSerenity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #8 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post PM the user that made that post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #9 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post You can indeed flat tow on all four wheels a Smart 450 or 452 at any legal speed. https://www.evilution.co.uk/index.php?menu=basics&mod=557 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #10 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post I think I learned something today. Good post. Alan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #11 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post Thank You all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #12 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post Next stupid question. I bet you just love us new guys. Will the rims and tires fit from a 2009 pure on s 2005 pure? Both coupes. I tried doing a search but couldn’t find anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #13 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post No. The 2009(451) rims on a 2005(450) will rub against the rear shock absorber. But you can put 450 rims on a 451. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #14 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post Ok. Is that due to the offset? The reason I’m asking is a can get a great deal on 4 rims and winter tires from 2009. But we are looking at a 2005. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #15 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post Front 451 wheels are a near perfect fit on 450 front. Not so with rears due to offset. https://www.evilution.co.uk/index.php?menu=chassis&mod=1141 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #16 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post Thank You I’m assuming that steel rims have the same issue? we have a scan gauge 2 for our motorhome. Can it be used to read and clear codes in a 450 0rv451? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #17 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post Same rear wheel offset issue with steel rims. Best cheap scanner for the 450 & 451 is the Delphi DS150E. Can read all systems. Go for MB Star clone if you wish to keep the Smart car for some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #18 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post Thank You Tolden. We are an Apple family and have no pcs in our house. The info that I found says it works only on pc. Any thoughts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #19 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post An old laptop running XP is all you need to run Delphi. Perhaps also load Wurth WoW. Both are near perfect. Best thing since sliced bread. Avoid later versions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #20 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post Thank You Tolsen. Sorry about the auto spell earlier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #21 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post 1 hour ago, LifeinSerenity said: we have a scan gauge 2 for our motorhome. Can it be used to read and clear codes in a 450 0rv451? The scan gauge 2 will read and clear engine codes on a 450 & 451. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #22 Posted December 28, 2017 · Report post Thank You Smart 142. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites