· #1 Posted July 17 · Report post My 2008 Smart Fortwo Passion automatic transmission has 128k and it had been working excellent, it is nice and in very clean conditions, I love it 4 months ago driving on the 403 near Toronto Canada with intense traffic, gears started to change up and down, up and down so in one of those standing still traffic moments I put it in neutral position and then in drive position and it didn't go, I turned off and on and gears didn't change from neutral; I turned off again and then it never even started again I took it to M-Benz dealership in Mississauga (Canada) for a diagnostic and quote and they said: Front computer to be replaced Gears motor to be replaced Starter to be replaced All this came to $3,500.00 CAD plus tax which is almost the value of the vehicle so they said it is not worth to do the repair The question is, can I repair the car in a cost -efficient economical way? Should I sell it as is? Can you help me and repair it? I would appreciate your advice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #2 Posted July 18 · Report post Welcome to CsC. I would ignore the M-B diagnosis. Are you the original owner? Has the transmission control unit software been updated? How old is the battery? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #3 Posted July 18 · Report post Thank you Huronlad for your response I am the third owner and my son the second The transmission control unit software has never been updated as far as I know Battery is two years old and works good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #4 Posted July 18 · Report post I would try disconnecting the negative cable from the battery for 30 minutes or so and see if the car will respond. If that helps the next step would be to have the software updated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #5 Posted July 18 · Report post Thanks Horonlad. I will try tomorrow and will comment here. Thks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #6 Posted July 18 · Report post Welcome Rob There are some pretty bright guys over here that hopefully can get you sorted out. When you turn the ignition on does the display show the P? I will ask a question to our experts, does the 451 model have the same issues as the 450 in regards to the clutch actuator wearing a hole in the fork? If so should Rob have the three bars showing in his information display? Nigel 1 person likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #7 Posted July 18 · Report post I do not recall reading of any 451 with a failed clutch fork. Did M-B provide you with any paperwork with fault codes to justify replacing major parts? 1 person likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #8 Posted July 18 · Report post Also Rob if you click on Service Options at the top of this page you will find a list of shops that have been helpful with our members in the past. Uncle Glenn in London probably services more smarts than any dealer and has several parts cars in the warehouse as well. If he doesn’t respond here in the next 24 hours give him a phone call and pick his brain. I’ve always found him to be generous with his time. Nigel 1 person likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #9 Posted July 18 · Report post Thanks Huronlad I didn’t know. From his symptoms it is the first place I would be looking on the older model 450. Nigel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #10 Posted July 18 · Report post Thanks. 56 minutes ago, Nigel said: Welcome Rob There are some pretty bright guys over here that hopefully can get you sorted out. When you turn the ignition on does the display show the P? I will ask a question to our experts, does the 451 model have the same issues as the 450 in regards to the clutch actuator wearing a hole in the fork? If so should Rob have the three bars showing in his information display? Nigel 42 minutes ago, Nigel said: Also Rob if you click on Service Options at the top of this page you will find a list of shops that have been helpful with our members in the past. Uncle Glenn in London probably services more smarts than any dealer and has several parts cars in the warehouse as well. If he doesn’t respond here in the next 24 hours give him a phone call and pick his brain. I’ve always found him to be generous with his time. Nigel 56 minutes ago, Nigel said: Welcome Rob There are some pretty bright guys over here that hopefully can get you sorted out. When you turn the ignition on does the display show the P? I will ask a question to our experts, does the 451 model have the same issues as the 450 in regards to the clutch actuator wearing a hole in the fork? If so should Rob have the three bars showing in his information display? Nigel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
· #11 Posted July 30 · Report post Possible long shot question. Do you have an ELM327 OBDII code reader attached? I had one installed and it would start throwing P0500 codes and cause the car to drop into limp mode with transmission shifting oddly. Once I unhooked it everything went back to normal. Now I only use it to clear the P2188 code I throw when I drive the car too hard. 1 person likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
