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Hi guys and do we still have any gals here...?

I just happen to be notified of another smart car site on FB, so I joined, yep deserted our great site, but not left. After joining that site many other sites have popped up to join....WTF....?  These sites seem to have tens of thousands of members with so much activity daily it's almost too much!  Yes they are from all over the world and deal with all models and years etc etc.....just like we do. Plus they have the young or crazy blood folks who are modifying the daylights out of their cars!!!!  And some think I'm crazy.....I have nothing on most of these folks!

Any way....my thought or question is.....why isn't this site working like these new to me sites....?   We have far more technical information imho to offer etc etc....but we aren't getting the flow of new members?  Why...?   It saddens me to watch our site slowly die off, because if feels like this is what is happening....sniff sniff....!

Isn't there any way for our site to attract these new folks here?   Some sort of trigger in the programing that offers up our site to the FB masses...?   Are we missing something that allows this to happen?  

I'm a new member of 4 new SmartCar sites and the notices of action is non stop almost.....almost so much it's annoying...lol.   See as I type another "ping" letting me know someone somewhere else has posted up.


Please don't allow our site to go the way of the "DO_DO".....we have so much to offer....and gain from all the new blood so to speak.

 

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Talking to the ones in here that know isn't going to achieve what's needed. You need to be telling the people on the billy no mates sites that here is where they should be. :)

 

I don't think the average Facebook user has the nous to use forums. Turnover and rewards are too slow for today's youth. :)

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mjolinor said:

You need to be telling the people on the billy no mates sites that here is where they should be. :)

Yes I know and have tried to spread the word about our site, but....we also need to have more activity to attract new members imho.  
All you need to do is type in smart car sites on FB and you get a big surprise to find out how many active sites there are out there.   I personally want this site to grow and thrive....it has far too many helpful members willing to share their knowledge to those who ask for help.

Fingers crossed that things change for the better.  

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The trajectory here is following the trajectory of smart itself, a bit of a flash in the pan in Canada and even more so in the USA. The new Chinese "smarts" are atrocious things given the original brief for smart - I saw some in the UK, heading to dealers.

 

The thrill of the new radical economy car in the Canadian market is long past; the current typical owner has it as a cheap thing to be disposed of once it needs a repair over $50.

 

I'm not sure why other smart sites are more active. Maybe not being for profit and having pretty much absent site leadership and unclear ownership @CsC is part of the problem.

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All the UK and Europe sites followed the billy no mates emigration starting maybe 5 years ago and they have now all gone completely.

 

Nostalgia is just knowing something used to be better, not as the dictionary describes it. :)

 

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I do not know how or why these new to me sites are doing so well membership wise, numbers wise.....some have tens of thousands of members and show many many posts a day. You compare that to our site and we are almost dead already!  These other sites also have many younger members possibly as they show modified smarts or all ages/models and don't ridicule members for modifying their cars no matter what the end product turns out to be...?  Also imho the smart car isn't a dead issue, it still has that quirky following of a niche type vehicle. No different than a old school mini or fiat 500.....
Yes the main pool of folks could be on the other side of the planet but from what I have seen over the past week there are many in North America also. Many below our border and yes not the CDI models but still smart cars none the less.   Yes we seem to be a CDI specialist site but we do offer all models here, so why aren't we active?

Yes I do realize that many of our core base is a bit long in the tooth as in original owners of the first smart cars when they first landed on our shores, but we also have other who have found our site who are simply after a place to chat and get help for our beloved cars.

I do not know anything about how the internet (FB) works that attracts new people to specific sites etc, but there must be a way to put our site in front of new eyes so we can get new blood into our great site...?   Maybe it is time to get new management or moderators that know how this works to positions that will benefit the site as a whole...???

I do realize many of the other new to me sites have plenty of advertisements etc on them which isn't fun so to speak, but if that is the way to get us breathing again maybe we should think about it...?

I don't even know who owns or manages our site or who here is educated enough to change things for the better? I'm definately not that person. I know enough about computers to usually ruin my own...lol.

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The North American/Canadian, market has never been big on modding their smarts.  Some of us have spent a fairly large sum on mods, but most are more interested in keeping their cars reliable.  If you look on Instagram, there are lots of modders and companies that cater to them.  Most of the real enthusiasts are in Europe, especially Greece and are a younger demographic.  I am 77 and had my '09 Brabus since new and enjoying modding and maintaining it.  I have been a car guy since my early teens and don't see any slowing down.  I suppose I should join Facebook and see what I can learn over there.  I hope this site grows, but smarts seem to have lost their charm for the most part.

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36 minutes ago, 1983JZR3W said:

The North American/Canadian, market has never been big on modding their smarts.  Some of us have spent a fairly large sum on mods, but most are more interested in keeping their cars reliable.  If you look on Instagram, there are lots of modders and companies that cater to them.  Most of the real enthusiasts are in Europe, especially Greece and are a younger demographic.  I am 77 and had my '09 Brabus since new and enjoying modding and maintaining it.  I have been a car guy since my early teens and don't see any slowing down.  I suppose I should join Facebook and see what I can learn over there.  I hope this site grows, but smarts seem to have lost their charm for the most part.

I have found so many sites in the last few weeks that the thought of Smarts dying has sort of disappeared, it seems that we think this way here, why I do not know, but I have met new people who used to have a club of 50 members in Ontario apart from this site...Hmmmm....?   How can that be...? This being not that many years ago.  Yes COVID has hit that hard also but, another club with that many active members and no mention of it? 
Yes I know there will always be two sides to the car enthusist coin, keeping it stock and modding the daylights out of it. It is the same with every vehcile out there....but some how they seem to survive,   It has me confused.....and yes I'm easily confused as I age....lol.
Fingers crossed we can survive.

 

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The desire to mod will start slowing down and the car will slip into the classic mold over the next few years. I think it will probably happen early for the 450s compared to most marques.

 

I don't think you got any of the early ones on the wrong side of the pond and I have only seen a couple with transverse leaf suspension in the UK and very few 450 CDI because they were never made RHD.

 

The people are still there and it does not need the Internet anyway, survival of the car and the enthusiasts will remain irrespective of the Internet. The important thing about the Internet is the store of information it already has. That information is out there for the most part and it will remain there. There is little to learn about them now, a good Gooogling will solve most problems. The billy no mates sites are successful only because people want a fast response without doing the work to solve it themselves.

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I'll make an effort, my subdivision has 3-4 Smarts and there is another for sale not too far away, so every time I exit my neighbourhood I'll detour around their places and see if they are out and about and start up a conversation but winter is coming....

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