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  1. Welcome

    1. Special Announcements

      Here you can read the latest announcements of special importance. This may include notice of changes to the clubsmartcar website or very special events in the smart community. You will also find our rules of conduct and other general information about the site. Only Mods can initiate posts in this forum. (If you have an announcement talk to your local mod and ask them to post it for you.)

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    2. Introduce Yourself

      Come say Hi! Start your own thread, introduce yourself, post updates and pictures, check out the history of other members.

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    3. Site Feedback

      Here you can discuss issues related to the website or forums.

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  2. Smart Car Discussions

    1. enviro-mileage

      Visit this forum to learn more about the smart car's fuel economy, emissions, and ecological impacts. Members can also share their mileage results and learn about ways of driving their smart efficiently. This is also a forum to discuss vehicle (and driver!) modifications related to improving fuel economy, and any instrumentation devices used to monitor fuel economy in realtime, such as the Scangauge.

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    2. General Discussions

      It seems that this forum is the default go to forum for just about anything and everything, including topics best kept elsewhere, since we have a forum for most every topic.... But alas, place it here I guess - it's not likely to get kicked out... LOL!

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    3. In News & Entertainment

      Press releases, articles, publication reviews, on television, as seen in the entertainment industry... What's being said about the smart car and by who? Find out.

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    4. Vehicle Distribution and Tracking

      This forum is for discussion about the production and distribution of smart cars. If you want to know the quantity of vehicles in each province or country, visit here! We maintain lists of special edition smarts, often with the VIN # when possible. This is also the place to visit if you need help with tracking your smartie. It could be in the factory, on a ship, on a train -- or at your dealership!

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  3. Technical Discussions

    1. Operation and Maintenance: 450 Model, 2005-2006, diesel

      For General Operation and Maintenance discussions specific to the 450 cdi (diesel) sold in Canada as 2005 and 2006 models.

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    2. Operation and Maintenance: 451 Model, 2008-2015, gasoline

      For General Operation and Maintenance discussions specific to the 451 Model, sold in the US and Canada beginning with the 2008 model year and ending with the 2015 model year, gasoline engine only.

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    3. Modifications and Performance: 450 Model, 2005-2006, diesel

      For Modification and Performance discussions specific to the 450 cdi (diesel) sold in Canada as 2005 and 2006 models.

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    4. Modifications and Performance: 451 Model, 2008-2015, gasoline

      For General Operation and Maintenance discussions specific to the 451 Model, sold in the US and Canada beginning with the 2008 model year and and ending with the 2015 model year, gasoline engine only.

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    5. How-To: 450 Model, 2005-2006, diesel

      How-To Technical Articles specific to the 450 cdi (diesel) sold in Canada as 2005 and 2006 models.

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    6. How-To: 451 Model, 2008-2015, gasoline

      For General Operation and Maintenance discussions specific to the 451 Model, sold in the US and Canada beginning with the 2008 model year and ending with the 2015, gasoline engine only.

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    7. Electric Drive

      A forum to discuss the smart Electric Drive and its technical aspects

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    8. Fortwo 453 - 2016 and newer

      A forum for discussions surrounding the 453 model smart fortwo and its technical aspects

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  4. CsC Community Discussions

    1. Eco-Matters

      A place to discuss the environment and our impact on it. Not necessarily smart car specific but topics should be of interest to the smart car community.

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    2. Community Chatter

      For off-topic posting. Have something to say that isn't quite related to smart cars such as a marriage or birth announcement? While not "everything" goes, this is the place to post topics that don't really belong in one of the other forums.

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    3. Auto Talk

      This forum is for all discussions about non-smart automobiles - technical characteristics, marketing, opinions, new technology, your other cars and more!

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  5. Market Place

    1. Buyer's Guide

      A place to talk about smart car configurations, options & accessories to help you in your big decision. Also a place to discuss the various aspects of acquiring parts or vehicles, how to price a used vehicle, and things to look for when purchasing a used smart.

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    2. Member Classifieds - Parts and Accessories

      This is the Buy & Sell forum for smart car parts and accessories including wheels and tires. No commercial posts permitted in this forum. Listings of smart cars for sale are now in a dedicated forum.

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    3. Member Classifieds - smart cars for sale

      This is the Buy & Sell forum for personal listings of smart cars for sale. No dealer listings permitted in this forum.
      Before posting, please read the topic titled "PLEASE READ FIRST" to understand how to format your listing.

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    4. Self Promotion

      Looking for something special for your smart? This is where you'll find it. Have a smart car related business? This is the place to advertise it. Note: All posts must contain item description and pricing as opposed to linking elsewhere. Posts with links only will be deleted.

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    5. Dealer Showroom

      Dealers selling smart cars post offers and ads here.

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    6. Stuff I've Found / Stuff I'm Looking For

      A place to post links or info about parts, accessories, tools... anything really... that you found a good deal on or that you are trying to locate. Or if you want to give a shout out to a business that treated you right. No commercial posting allowed!

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    7. Trading Post

      Karma Based Area to trade/swap/give away smart car stuff - not for stuff to sell!

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  6. Regional Forums

    1. Canada Wide Events and Trip Reports

      This forum is for discussion of Canada Wide events. Feel free to post your cross-Canada trip reports here with photos.

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    2. Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands

      smart Marmot's Lair - This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions on Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands

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    3. The Rest of British Columbia

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all areas of BC outside of Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands.

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    4. The Prairies

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all places in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba

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    5. Southern Ontario

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for Southern Ontario, including London and all places between Niagara and Windsor and north to Tobermory. Excludes the Greater Toronto Area.

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    6. Ottawa, Toronto and The Rest of Ontario

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all places in Ontario between the Greater Toronto Area and Ottawa, including Hamilton, Burlington, Barrie, Belleville, Kingston and then west to the Manitoba border.

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    7. Atlantic Canada - Quebec to Cape Spear

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all areas of Quebec, New Brunswick, PEI, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador

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    8. United States and The Rest of the World

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all areas outside of Canada.

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  • Recent Posts

    • No need to guess, I have a low-ish mileage clutch arm right here. Now I can see the exact radius of curvature they used in both sockets, it isn't constant.   (Don't worry, eventually I'll stop posting shots of 3D scans and CAD files and start posting pics of actual machined parts, but since this is the start, this is what you see first!)   More to follow soon on this little fix. Could save all of you quite a bit of time and money fixing your smarties! By the way, if you are thinking of modifying your actuator, please wait!   Dave
    • Damn another SAM with messed up circuits!  Everyone and I do mean EVERYONE who has not already preventatively done the external fuel pump and headlight relay modification should do so pronto.   Someone else can answer your question but I think there is a workaround someone developed.
    • I think I have a solution for this problem that can be done in-situ that will last the life of the vehicle.    As many of you know, I've been working quite a bit on transmission & clutch actuation related items on this car lately and I didn't want to invest the time in an external clutch actuator until I solved this ball socket wear problem.    I'll post pics of the new design shortly. I have a high precision CNC lathe here so I can whip these up like hotcakes.   - Quick question, and this is important to my design: Is Anyone's actuator anywhere near the limit of travel in the bolt slots AWAY from the bellhousing? Both of mine here are near the middle. Middle or closer is perfect, further and I need to know. I would think MB can hold close enough tolerances that everyone is in the same ball park. I assume as it needs to be adjusted over time it keeps getting closer to the bell housing right? Please let me know if you know!   Dave
    • GOT 'ER RUNNING!    So I checked the SAM again and on close inspection the #10 pin looked a little round and the clip was a bit toasty so it probably wasn't making proper contact or worst, arcing. I stripped off the casing on # 10 wire a couple of inches from the clip like Tolsen said. There is a clip where they attach the wires to the clip. Put the voltmeter on and BINGO no  power with ignition on 1 or 2. I used a 20 amp fuse I had hanging around, a spade clip and some wire and slipped it in a switched slot on the SAM. Then cut the # 10 wire where they clip it together and wired it to the hot wire I just put in the switched slot. Now when I turned the ignition I had power to the wire and I could hear the pump. Turned 'er over a few times and it ran like a champ.   So it looks like "Fuel Pump Wiring Upgrade" to the rescue again.   Thanks to Tolsen for the help and Cadillacman for the great animation explaining the fuel system.   I'll go to MB and get the proper fuse holder and clips and clean up my work but at least I know what it is and the car is running again.   So now I have SAM with a crappy connection to pin 10 so I bypassed it with a switched hot wire and it works as proof of concept.   Now I've been looking at the Fuel pump Relay upgrade and it presumes that the 10 pin is intact which mine is not.   Can I continue to run like this with power straight to the fuel pump or will I fry something because I think I'm basically bypassing the relay, no?   Cheers
    • Thanks!   To answer the question about just swapping transmissions: The transmission the car has now is a manual transmission in every way. No need to change it, it has the right ratios, right clutch, everything. Just need to take the actuators off and put "adapters" on it to allow direct mechanical control, that is what I'm doing.    I'm going to finish the shifter and pedals tonight hopefully, but I'm stuck on the shifting actuator. I'm getting prices back on all the purchased parts, the external unit will automatically increase the whole price of the kit by at least $250.    I'm trying to keep the cost of such a kit down because I know Smart car owners, especially the cdi group, are very conservative with their pennies (nickels now I guess?)   Another question for all of you:   Which matters more to you? Lightest and best performing package at the expense of having to drop the transmission, split the cases and install the kit or,   Higher cost, bolt on solution at the expense of more inertial resistance while shifting but hopefully much less labor cost to install. To be honest I've never tried to drop just the transmission alone with the engine in the car, I assume you still have to drop the engine/transmission assembly to do this, just to get access to all the bolts around the bell housing? Any time I've worked on my smarts I just drop the subframe. I don't want to assume most owners are comfortable with doing this.    Once I finish the pedals and shifter I'll need to decide before cutting metal. I personally don't mind pulling the transmission and going that route, but I want to run with whatever most people would want to go with.   Dave