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  1. Welcome

    1. Special Announcements

      Here you can read the latest announcements of special importance. This may include notice of changes to the clubsmartcar website or very special events in the smart community. You will also find our rules of conduct and other general information about the site. Only Mods can initiate posts in this forum. (If you have an announcement talk to your local mod and ask them to post it for you.)

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    2. Introduce Yourself

      Come say Hi! Start your own thread, introduce yourself, post updates and pictures, check out the history of other members.

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    3. Site Feedback

      Here you can discuss issues related to the website or forums.

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  2. Smart Car Discussions

    1. enviro-mileage

      Visit this forum to learn more about the smart car's fuel economy, emissions, and ecological impacts. Members can also share their mileage results and learn about ways of driving their smart efficiently. This is also a forum to discuss vehicle (and driver!) modifications related to improving fuel economy, and any instrumentation devices used to monitor fuel economy in realtime, such as the Scangauge.

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    2. General Discussions

      It seems that this forum is the default go to forum for just about anything and everything, including topics best kept elsewhere, since we have a forum for most every topic.... But alas, place it here I guess - it's not likely to get kicked out... LOL!

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    3. In News & Entertainment

      Press releases, articles, publication reviews, on television, as seen in the entertainment industry... What's being said about the smart car and by who? Find out.

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    4. Vehicle Distribution and Tracking

      This forum is for discussion about the production and distribution of smart cars. If you want to know the quantity of vehicles in each province or country, visit here! We maintain lists of special edition smarts, often with the VIN # when possible. This is also the place to visit if you need help with tracking your smartie. It could be in the factory, on a ship, on a train -- or at your dealership!

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  3. Technical Discussions

    1. Operation and Maintenance: 450 Model, 2005-2006, diesel

      For General Operation and Maintenance discussions specific to the 450 cdi (diesel) sold in Canada as 2005 and 2006 models.

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    2. Operation and Maintenance: 451 Model, 2008-2015, gasoline

      For General Operation and Maintenance discussions specific to the 451 Model, sold in the US and Canada beginning with the 2008 model year and ending with the 2015 model year, gasoline engine only.

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    3. Modifications and Performance: 450 Model, 2005-2006, diesel

      For Modification and Performance discussions specific to the 450 cdi (diesel) sold in Canada as 2005 and 2006 models.

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    4. Modifications and Performance: 451 Model, 2008-2015, gasoline

      For General Operation and Maintenance discussions specific to the 451 Model, sold in the US and Canada beginning with the 2008 model year and and ending with the 2015 model year, gasoline engine only.

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    5. How-To: 450 Model, 2005-2006, diesel

      How-To Technical Articles specific to the 450 cdi (diesel) sold in Canada as 2005 and 2006 models.

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    6. How-To: 451 Model, 2008-2015, gasoline

      For General Operation and Maintenance discussions specific to the 451 Model, sold in the US and Canada beginning with the 2008 model year and ending with the 2015, gasoline engine only.

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    7. Electric Drive

      A forum to discuss the smart Electric Drive and its technical aspects

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    8. Fortwo 453 - 2016 and newer

      A forum for discussions surrounding the 453 model smart fortwo and its technical aspects

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  4. CsC Community Discussions

    1. Eco-Matters

      A place to discuss the environment and our impact on it. Not necessarily smart car specific but topics should be of interest to the smart car community.

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    2. Community Chatter

      For off-topic posting. Have something to say that isn't quite related to smart cars such as a marriage or birth announcement? While not "everything" goes, this is the place to post topics that don't really belong in one of the other forums.

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    3. Auto Talk

      This forum is for all discussions about non-smart automobiles - technical characteristics, marketing, opinions, new technology, your other cars and more!

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  5. Market Place

    1. Buyer's Guide

      A place to talk about smart car configurations, options & accessories to help you in your big decision. Also a place to discuss the various aspects of acquiring parts or vehicles, how to price a used vehicle, and things to look for when purchasing a used smart.

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    2. Member Classifieds - Parts and Accessories

      This is the Buy & Sell forum for smart car parts and accessories including wheels and tires. No commercial posts permitted in this forum. Listings of smart cars for sale are now in a dedicated forum.

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    3. Member Classifieds - smart cars for sale

      This is the Buy & Sell forum for personal listings of smart cars for sale. No dealer listings permitted in this forum.
      Before posting, please read the topic titled "PLEASE READ FIRST" to understand how to format your listing.

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    4. Self Promotion

      Looking for something special for your smart? This is where you'll find it. Have a smart car related business? This is the place to advertise it. Note: All posts must contain item description and pricing as opposed to linking elsewhere. Posts with links only will be deleted.

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    5. Dealer Showroom

      Dealers selling smart cars post offers and ads here.

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    6. Stuff I've Found / Stuff I'm Looking For

      A place to post links or info about parts, accessories, tools... anything really... that you found a good deal on or that you are trying to locate. Or if you want to give a shout out to a business that treated you right. No commercial posting allowed!

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    7. Trading Post

      Karma Based Area to trade/swap/give away smart car stuff - not for stuff to sell!

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  6. Regional Forums

    1. Canada Wide Events and Trip Reports

      This forum is for discussion of Canada Wide events. Feel free to post your cross-Canada trip reports here with photos.

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    2. Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands

      smart Marmot's Lair - This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions on Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands

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    3. The Rest of British Columbia

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all areas of BC outside of Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands.

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    4. The Prairies

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all places in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba

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    5. Southern Ontario

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for Southern Ontario, including London and all places between Niagara and Windsor and north to Tobermory. Excludes the Greater Toronto Area.

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    6. Ottawa, Toronto and The Rest of Ontario

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all places in Ontario between the Greater Toronto Area and Ottawa, including Hamilton, Burlington, Barrie, Belleville, Kingston and then west to the Manitoba border.

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    7. Atlantic Canada - Quebec to Cape Spear

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all areas of Quebec, New Brunswick, PEI, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador

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    8. United States and The Rest of the World

      This forum is for events and regionally specific discussions for all areas outside of Canada.

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  • Recent Posts

    • Three coats of colour, off-gassing at the moment.  Wet sanding to come next week, then three coats of clear and more wet sanding...
    • Just put down $2K deposit on 2017 Smart ED coupe. MSRP $28800 $3K in options Black panels with "electric green" tridion $200 LED lighting $700 Pano roof $390 touch screen $1600 arm rest $125 Car is currently in Halifax awaiting certification. Estimated delivery is end of September.   The Smart loyalty discount was quote as $500 (it used to be $1000). Dealer first offer is a discount of $2K on top of loyalty (I consider this a "starting place" for negotiation). Ontario rebate is $13K Trade in quote for 2013 Smart ED with 25000 km is $8500.   Looking at ~$12K on the road for trade - up. If it's worth $8500 for trade in 4 years from now, that's $3500 to drive 4 more years. Not as good a deal as I intend to finally negotiate, but it's a stake in the ground for now.   Figured I had better put down my deposit for one of the first coupe's off the boat to reserve my place in line. This car was the highest optioned of the list of cars for this dealer. Not as highly optioned as I would have personally spec'd, but the color is what I wanted.   For reference, I've gone in to three dealers and priced out new cars: 2017 Nissan Leaf would only be $2000 more than the Smart over a 4 year period, as Nissan has significant discounts, and Ontario rebate is $14K (5 seat cars get the full rebate). 2017 Chevy Volt would be $4000 more than the Smart over a 4 year period, with dealer willing to budge only $1000 on MSRP.   Decision is made easier because we prefer the looks and go-cart driving characteristics of the Smart vs Leaf, and don't want to use gas and dislike Chevy corporate politics (anti-Tesla).   My plan B is a used BMW i3.   There's one on auto trader for $23K, which is probably $6K to drive over 4 years (after trade in and factoring in $3K of out of warranty repair/maintenance), reasonably attractive, but I prefer an in-warranty car for peace of mind.   I like the looks of the i3, and the performance is way above the Smart.   It's an option.   I've got a few months...
    • When the 'sales' people think that they can convince the 'stoopit' public that the words mean what they want to hear, then it's a 'GO', yes ?   Ford has a much larger buyer base and has found that that the 're-invention' of the language did not go over so well. The Focus and Fiesta models are currently the subject of US class-action lawsuits over their 'automatic' transmissions. Some of the allegations (true) are regards mechanical failure, but others are regards (true) expected operational norms.   Where are the media in all of this ? If it has a clutch, it's a manual ! Automotive journalism is in a really sad state. Truth does not always equal $$$ returns , sad, but true.    
    • Agreed. My typical reader (not a smart enthusiast) wouldn't know the difference. The DCT is a huge improvement over the single-clutch unit previously found in the Fortwo. Manufacturers these days refer to DCT's as automatics - with no differentiation between an hydraulic (regular) or dual-clutch system. The earlier transmission was as an automated manual transmission, not a true automatic. In 2005 the Fortwo was available with a choice of a Soft Touch or optional Soft Tip (standard on the Passions) transmission. But these days, in every used Fortwo advertisement, the car is advertised as being equipped with an automatic transmission - I have yet to see an owner pointing out the difference. In their defense, they probably didn't know there was a difference.    
    • The scoop is probably gone.  Glenn has been known to recycle 4 litre oil jugs and turning them into replacement scoops. We seem to lose them in the winter snow.   Nigel