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 Feb 6 2010 - 04:53 PM
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 Group: Regular Members Posts: 29 Joined: May 26th, 08 From: Riverside,CA Member No.: 5,950  |
With this new engine mount you will experience a lot less lag and more torque. in order to pass or keep up with traffic, the car cannot respond enough. Experience an improvement that any smart car owner would appreciate. Your car will react much quicker, and gave a kick that you definitely can feel.
What is happening? When you run a dyno directly at the motor you get a horsepower at the flywheel. From the flywheel to the rear wheel you lose around 15% to 25% of the horsepower. By installing a stiffer torque mount all we are doing is decreasing the loss between the flywheel horsepower and the rear wheel horsepower. That’s all. Our engine mount is made to replace the OEM engine mount, which is not as strong or as durable as ours. These engine mounts are equipped with soft polyurethane bushings to minimize vibrations without sacrificing power. Here is the direct link: Smart Car Engine Mounts $129 - Shipped Here are some pics:  Cisco SmartCar Performance 951-532-7939 This post has been edited by smartcar-performance: May 15 2010 - 09:19 PM |
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Feb 7 2010 - 06:23 AM
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 'Floating' Director of CsC Group: Moderators Posts: 20,054 Joined: May 24th, 05 From: Ladysmith, Vancouver Island, BC CDN Member No.: 5 |
Sorry to intervene here in an advert, but I want to caution people that the engine mounts in the smart are not just engine mounts, they are also a hugely important part of the crash management and safety system. The OE engine mounts are designed to allow significant forward movement of the drivetrain in a collision, which absorbs much of the rebound effect in a serious collision. Tampering with these systems, while maybe OK for racetrack use, is like messing around with other passive safety systems in the car. I would caution against replacing OE engine mounts in any smart car, you have been warned.
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Feb 7 2010 - 12:36 PM
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Group: Regular Members Posts: 29 Joined: May 26th, 08 From: Riverside,CA Member No.: 5,950 |
Engine Mounts are really for Off Road and Racing applications only. Here is our video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veSAXvmN01U |
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Feb 7 2010 - 02:25 PM
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 This is my smart. There are many like it, but this one is mine. Group: Regular Members Posts: 9,038 Joined: Jun 12th, 05 From: Kelowna, British Columbia, CANADA Member No.: 95 |
Warning, warning, disclaimer, disclaimer.... Duly noted.
If they'd have fit the 450, I'd be in like the proverbial dirty shirt. That got dirty from riding in my off-road smart car 
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Feb 7 2010 - 02:31 PM
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 Group: Regular Members Posts: 910 Joined: Jun 28th, 05 From: Mississauga ON Canada Member No.: 145 |
The smart doesn't qualify as either an off-road or racing vehicle, so why engineer a product for it?
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Feb 7 2010 - 04:53 PM
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 Group: Regular Members Posts: 1,427 Joined: Jun 29th, 07 From: Sunshine Coast BC Member No.: 3,704 |
Bil you're so funny!
Yea, do have any that fit the 450? -------------------- Just cruzin in the "RAT"
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Feb 7 2010 - 05:07 PM
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This is my smart. There are many like it, but this one is mine. Group: Regular Members Posts: 9,038 Joined: Jun 12th, 05 From: Kelowna, British Columbia, CANADA Member No.: 95 |
I hypothetically did something like this to my two rear engine mounts in situ, and theoretically did the rears because I could reach them easily with the Urethane caulking gun. Easy-peasy.
http://www.mazda3club.com/showthread.php?t=46427This mod allegedly returns slight improvement in shifting, torque to the wheels and reduced engine vibration. I'm just guessin' mind. Just a little "bench-racing" ... 
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Feb 7 2010 - 08:38 PM
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Group: Regular Members Posts: 282 Joined: Dec 11th, 07 From: Vancouver Member No.: 5,138 |
When you run a dyno directly at the motor you get a horsepower at the flywheel. From the flywheel to the rear wheel you lose around 15% to 25% of the horsepower. By installing a stiffer torque mount all we are doing is decreasing the loss between the flywheel horsepower and the rear wheel horsepower.
So are you claiming a 15-25% gain, or just cleverly insinuating it? This does not match up with any physics principles I've ever seen. Just answer this question clearly: Where does the energy lost GO to? And if you try to say it is absorbed by the elastomer, then why don't we see melted engine mount littering the roads? I'm all for self-promotion of products that WORK, but this sounds suspiciously like magnets for the fuel line. An increase in vibration and noise may FEEL like more power.... This post has been edited by Alex: Feb 7 2010 - 08:40 PM |
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Feb 7 2010 - 08:46 PM
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This is my smart. There are many like it, but this one is mine. Group: Regular Members Posts: 9,038 Joined: Jun 12th, 05 From: Kelowna, British Columbia, CANADA Member No.: 95 |
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Feb 8 2010 - 02:07 PM
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Group: Regular Members Posts: 29 Joined: May 26th, 08 From: Riverside,CA Member No.: 5,950 |
QUOTE (Coast Steve @ Feb 7 2010 - 04:53 PM)  Bil you're so funny! Yea, do have any that fit the 450? Our Engine mounts are for the 451 model. |
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Feb 8 2010 - 02:18 PM
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Group: Regular Members Posts: 29 Joined: May 26th, 08 From: Riverside,CA Member No.: 5,950 |
QUOTE (Alex @ Feb 7 2010 - 08:38 PM) So are you claiming a 15-25% gain, or just cleverly insinuating it? This does not match up with any physics principles I've ever seen. Just answer this question clearly: Where does the energy lost GO to? And if you try to say it is absorbed by the elastomer, then why don't we see melted engine mount littering the roads? I'm all for self-promotion of products that WORK, but this sounds suspiciously like magnets for the fuel line. An increase in vibration and noise may FEEL like more power.... If you compare the OEM engine mount to ours, you will notice right away that our engine mount is a lot stiffer than the OEM. The OEM has a rubber bushing that enables a good 1 to 2 inch total movement. Our engine mount only allows maybe 1/4" to 1/2" movement. I am not claiming 15-25% gain, I am just saying that the the loss is decreased. With the decrease in loss of energy between flywheel and rear wheal, the energy is of course transferred to the wheels. That is where you get your additional performance gain. On our video we improved our 0-60 by 1.21 seconds. From my experience, when I drive up steep hills, the car does not struggle like before. When I am on the freeway and I accelerate, the car moves and reacts much quicker. We have a money back guarantee so if you don't experience the performance that I did, you can always return it. Cisco SmartCar Performance |
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Feb 16 2010 - 12:49 AM
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Group: Regular Members Posts: 29 Joined: May 26th, 08 From: Riverside,CA Member No.: 5,950 |
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Feb 16 2010 - 05:29 AM
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QUOTE (smartcar-performance @ Feb 16 2010 - 03:49 AM) Post redacted by the mods. Feel free to post useful comments or constructive criticism, or honest questions about a product, service or claim. But ad hominem attacks are not tolerated here. This post has been edited by SameGuy: Feb 16 2010 - 09:59 AM -------------------- bike - snowboard - bike - snowboard - bike - snowboard - bike - snowboard - bike - snowboard - bike - snowboard - bike - snowboard - bike - snowboard
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Feb 19 2010 - 09:04 AM
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Group: Regular Members Posts: 29 Joined: May 26th, 08 From: Riverside,CA Member No.: 5,950 |
QUOTE (pinhead19 @ Feb 16 2010 - 05:29 AM) Post redacted by the mods. Feel free to post useful comments or constructive criticism, or honest questions about a product, service or claim. But ad hominem attacks are not tolerated here. This video shows my product. I am not sure where any attack is being made. My post seems valid. Please explain. |
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Feb 19 2010 - 01:32 PM
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 Former Chief cook and bottle washer Group: Administrators Posts: 6,164 Joined: Oct 14th, 05 From: Victoria Member No.: 375 |
They modified the text of the post that was contrary to the CsC policies - so now you see the comment from the moderator instead of the original.
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Feb 21 2010 - 04:44 PM
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Group: Regular Members Posts: 414 Joined: Jul 3rd, 07 From: GTA Member No.: 3,730 |
QUOTE (smartcar-performance @ Feb 7 2010 - 03:36 PM) Engine Mounts are really for Off Road and Racing applications only. Is that also the case for the other mods you have listed on your site like the remap? |
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Feb 22 2010 - 05:24 AM
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Group: Regular Members Posts: 157 Joined: Sep 28th, 06 From: Kitchener, Ontario Member No.: 1,622 |
Sorry for my poor choice of words, my post was meant to read:
When I measure the speed of the car in your youtube video there is no difference between your run speeds. Is it not the actual testing, and just a video for entertainment? Or maybe I just cannot accurately measure because of camera angle and stuff. Or maybe I was just drunk that morning.... -------------------- bike - snowboard - bike - snowboard - bike - snowboard - bike - snowboard - bike - snowboard - bike - snowboard - bike - snowboard - bike - snowboard
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Feb 23 2010 - 04:21 PM
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Group: Regular Members Posts: 29 Joined: May 26th, 08 From: Riverside,CA Member No.: 5,950 |
QUOTE (pinhead19 @ Feb 22 2010 - 05:24 AM) Sorry for my poor choice of words, my post was meant to read: When I measure the speed of the car in your youtube video there is no difference between your run speeds. Is it not the actual testing, and just a video for entertainment? Or maybe I just cannot accurately measure because of camera angle and stuff. Or maybe I was just drunk that morning.... The video that we have on youtube is the actual testing that we did. We don't do things just for entertainment. You cannot accurately measure because you cannot see the speedometer from the driver's point of view, therefore you can't really see when we reach 60MPH. The point of the video was to see how the car sounds and to show how it reacts quicker. The data that we displayed afterwards are the real numbers that we got. If you noticed, we used the same street and the same direction so the slope of the street will also be the same and also wind direction. This post has been edited by smartcar-performance: Feb 23 2010 - 04:23 PM |
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Feb 24 2010 - 06:59 PM
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Group: Regular Members Posts: 1,427 Joined: Jun 29th, 07 From: Sunshine Coast BC Member No.: 3,704 |
I myself would like to try these one day, i'll bet you can feel the power being transfered to your seat and steering wheel, I bet it has a way sportier feel.
-------------------- Just cruzin in the "RAT"
1989 Mitsubishi Canter cab-over "dropside" 4 cyl diesel, 5 speed RHD, power tailgate, dualies, 10'x5'box, work truck, (kind of a slug though) 2005 Pulse, first brand new car!, Brabus this"N"that, racey stuff too, big fat tires, heater leather seats, stacked and ready to rock baby. Bring on the twisties! |
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May 15 2010 - 09:21 PM
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Group: Regular Members Posts: 29 Joined: May 26th, 08 From: Riverside,CA Member No.: 5,950 |
QUOTE (Coast Steve @ Feb 24 2010 - 07:59 PM) I myself would like to try these one day, i'll bet you can feel the power being transfered to your seat and steering wheel, I bet it has a way sportier feel. Yes, it does. New picture uploaded. New manufacturer. We now offer Free Shipping anywhere and we backup our product 100% Cisco SmartCar Performance www.smartcar-performance.coim |
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