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453 Live Reveal! July 16th 2014, 6:00 Pm Gmt

16 Jul 2014

Posted by FlossyTheSmart in Front Page News
Watch the live unveiling here, from 6:00 - 6:30 PM GMT. That's 2:00 - 2:30 PM EDT, or 11:00-11:30 AM PDT. Just click the video below - If you're early to the stream, it seems to be playing the "big city car" video on loop, with a message about the event in between playings. Enjoy! EDIT: Video is no longer live streaming. Here's a Youtube link to the actual "reveal" of the new car:

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Latest Prototype 453

23 Sep 2013

Posted by Mike T in Front Page News
The new fortwo has been revealed in its more or less definitive form, but it's still somewhat disguised. Note the four wheel bolts!

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These are the first spy pics depicting the production variant of next year’s Smart ForTwo.
Up until now we only saw test mules of the second-gen ForTwo but now we get the chance to take a look at the rear-wheel drive city car in production form which is scheduled to come out sometime in 2014. The ForTwo will be available strictly as a two-door model but a ForFour revival with two additional doors is also in the pipeline with a stretched wheelbase to accommodate two rear passengers.
The Smart duo will share platform with the next-gen Renault Twingo which will be offered exclusively as a five-door model. Reports are indicating Smart is planning an electric version of the ForTwo powered by an 87 bhp (65 kW) electric motor. Regular versions will be available with several three-cylinder gasoline and diesel versions, including a turbocharged gasoline motor developing 84 bhp (63 kW) and 104 bhp (77 kW).

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@  SkydiverChris : (26 August 2014 - 02:14 PM) If anyone is headed from the London, ON area to the Ottawa area, I have $100 for anyone who can get a rear window to me.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (26 August 2014 - 09:20 AM) Vote for my picture on us129photos.com HERE so that I can get a free poster!
@  FlossyTheSmart : (26 August 2014 - 08:24 AM) Cadillacman, good thing you figured it out. That's a pretty weird string to block on...
@  FlossyTheSmart : (26 August 2014 - 08:23 AM) I think the SAM and EDG (Presumably the ECU you mean) have to be paired. The SAM stores the key coding
@  P0003 : (26 August 2014 - 08:20 AM) I don't know which of the 2 items actually stores the key details
@  P0003 : (26 August 2014 - 08:20 AM) What about pairing a used SAM with an existing ECU... is that workable?
@  cadillacman : (26 August 2014 - 08:18 AM) All topics with string '888' were being blocked by a SiteBlock addon ... gads, the perils of avoiding sketchy websites
@  FlossyTheSmart : (26 August 2014 - 08:17 AM) Don't think there's a way to disable the immobilizer
@  P0003 : (26 August 2014 - 08:15 AM) I wonder if there is a way to completely disable the immobilizer function while I'm getting things done. What a pain in the neck.
@  P0003 : (26 August 2014 - 08:14 AM) Oh dear what have I gotten myself in to... hah. Well in another month things should show up. I was just put off by the dealer telling me it was 100% impossible to code a used key to a used ecu :(
@  FlossyTheSmart : (26 August 2014 - 08:12 AM) you just need the electronics work.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (26 August 2014 - 08:12 AM) Lol yeah. In your case though, you won't need to spend as much, as you don't actually need new keys or blades
@  P0003 : (26 August 2014 - 08:11 AM) Looks like I'm in for a fun time. Ouch.
@  P0003 : (26 August 2014 - 08:10 AM) "If you bought a car with 1 key or some how lost both keys then you are about to agree with me that you're
an idiot." lol
@  FlossyTheSmart : (26 August 2014 - 08:10 AM) He notes under the 451 section that it is impossible to recode a 451 for more keys if you don't have an original. He says this is to prevent someone from walking up, coding a key, then driving your car away, which is apparently possible on the 450 and roadster. You may be in luck
@  FlossyTheSmart : (26 August 2014 - 08:09 AM) http://www.evilution...u=info&mod=1026
@  FlossyTheSmart : (26 August 2014 - 08:07 AM) According to evilution, it IS possible to code a new key to a 450 WITHOUT having one of the keys that is already coded to the SAM
@  P0003 : (26 August 2014 - 08:05 AM) Crap.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (26 August 2014 - 08:04 AM) Not sure if it is possible to recode without an old key coded to the sam, as I think the immobilizer has to be deactivated
@  FlossyTheSmart : (26 August 2014 - 08:04 AM) ah, no keys for the old sam.