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@  smart65 : (21 May 2015 - 11:57 AM) Thanks
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 May 2015 - 06:48 AM) You can now also click on the number of comments and it will take you to the shop page with the comments on it
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 May 2015 - 06:36 AM) If you click on the shop name, it will take you to a page just for that shop, with the full details. I'll make the comment count a link to the page as well.
@  smart65 : (21 May 2015 - 06:28 AM) How can comments be accessed in Service Options?
@  Mike T : (20 May 2015 - 11:39 AM) PM sent of manual excerpt
@  Mike T : (20 May 2015 - 11:37 AM) It's in the owners manual all right
@  Huronlad : (20 May 2015 - 08:47 AM) There are numerous threads about the "three bars of death", make use of the forum search feature and do some reading.
@  1EGRBVR : (20 May 2015 - 06:39 AM) Thanks. I see nothing in the owners manual.
@  Mike T : (20 May 2015 - 06:31 AM) *Check
@  Mike T : (20 May 2015 - 06:31 AM) Gheck your owners manual, it is a gearbox fault.
@  1EGRBVR : (20 May 2015 - 06:07 AM) On the instrument cluster where the LED shows the gear you are in or A for Automatic, I am showing 3 vertical lines instead going across.  Has anyone else encountered this?   This happened after I changed the rear signal light.
@  Mike T : (19 May 2015 - 08:13 PM) Le Club 404 and some private sector guys in Europe are picking up on this big-time.
@  marchanna : (19 May 2015 - 04:38 PM) That makes good sense. Do you hope to get service parts made or custom built?
@  Mike T : (19 May 2015 - 03:07 PM) Strength in numbers....parts reproductions are more likely if we know there are 2000 or more coupes and cabriolets left...plus I have wanted to know this (how many are left) since 1977 when I first wanted to buy one.
@  marchanna : (19 May 2015 - 08:27 AM) Good stuff! Just out of curiosity, is there a practical purpose for the registry or is it just for fun?
@  Mike T : (18 May 2015 - 07:57 PM) Got some new 404s for the Registry, boo yeah!
@  marchanna : (18 May 2015 - 04:04 PM) Sup?
@  marchanna : (15 May 2015 - 04:06 AM) Haha. I just watched that skit last night.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (14 May 2015 - 05:59 AM) It's merely pining for the fjords right now
@  jwight : (14 May 2015 - 01:01 AM) That's too bad - hate to see the Mystery Run die out.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (13 May 2015 - 09:48 AM) I hadn't planned on organizing it this year. Noah had been planning on doing something I think, but he's no longer involved
@  marchanna : (12 May 2015 - 12:50 PM) Nope. It's a mystery.
@  stickman007 : (12 May 2015 - 09:41 AM) Any news on Mystery Run this year?
@  marchanna : (11 May 2015 - 02:07 PM) Nope. I had to tell the dealer I was having problems with it.
@  Francesco : (11 May 2015 - 06:03 AM) With a Star machine? Really? I find even just plugging/unplugging my ScanGauge stores CAN faults that the Star picks up.
@  marchanna : (11 May 2015 - 05:52 AM) On my ML320 I had a bad sensor and it didn't store any codes.
@  Francesco : (10 May 2015 - 03:00 PM) i will investigate the lateral G sensor showing positive lateral acceleration while the car is at rest.
@  Francesco : (10 May 2015 - 02:59 PM) Lights are working, alignment is correct. I'm still cycling through a variety of tire pressure combinations but the effect should still not be this aggressive considering it was flawless on bald rear tires last year. Faulty speed sensor should store a code, none stored.
@  marchanna : (10 May 2015 - 01:50 PM) Check for never tire wear with a depth gage, and tire pressure. Also if you have a bad speed sensor, it can cause an error intermittently. A slight misalignment in the front end can cause this too - i.e. improper toe-in. Other things that can affect it is a short or a ground fault in the brake and turn signal lights.
@  Francesco : (10 May 2015 - 01:18 PM) Wheel speeds are reporting fine, the problem is around bends with specific lateral forces. On one ramp the ESP reacts aggressively on initial turn in, then after the apex I'm able to power out with full pedal.
@  Francesco : (10 May 2015 - 01:16 PM) New last June, and painted with POR-15.
@  David_18 : (10 May 2015 - 11:46 AM) How are your ABS Ring ?
@  Francesco : (10 May 2015 - 07:44 AM) And the same tires last summer with zero problems, only difference this year is new ones in the rear
@  Francesco : (10 May 2015 - 07:43 AM) Yes
@  David_18 : (10 May 2015 - 07:43 AM) have*
@  David_18 : (10 May 2015 - 07:42 AM) You 4 tire with the same size ?
@  Francesco : (10 May 2015 - 07:38 AM) Yokohama S.drive 195/40-16
@  David_18 : (10 May 2015 - 07:13 AM) Brand/model ?
@  David_18 : (10 May 2015 - 07:08 AM) What tire you have ?
@  cadillacman : (10 May 2015 - 04:16 AM) try measuring the 'actual' circumference of all 4 tires, to see how much variance there is
@  Francesco : (09 May 2015 - 10:50 PM) Well I'm scratching my head. Think it might be the G sensor?
@  marchanna : (09 May 2015 - 06:44 PM) like in a PLC
@  marchanna : (09 May 2015 - 06:43 PM) I would say neither. It should have a fixed ladder logic.
@  Francesco : (09 May 2015 - 08:18 AM) Is the ESP system self-teaching or self-adapting?

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#1 JDLangdon

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 04:11 AM

The owners manual suggest that the tank is 22 liters with 5 listed as a reserve. Can someone explain to me how this works and when does the reserve actually kick in?I noticed this morning the light on the dash indicating that I had 2 liters of gas remaining in the tank. Since I was passing the gas station I decided to full-up. According to my dealer I'm susposed to pump the gas until the nozzle clicks, wait 30 seconds or so, and start pumping again. After the second click, the tank should be full. Assuming that the light on the dash was correct I managed to add an additional 18 liters for a total of 20 liters.This may seem like an odd question but how big is a Smart gas tank and where are my other 2 liters of gas?Jason

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 04:51 AM

No no, it's cool, it's kind of confusing. :)The tank is 22 litres - a lot of people get hung up on the terminology of "reserve" but it's not like there's physically another chunk of tank or something that opens... all smart means by this is that, at 17 L, the indicator on the dash starts blinking at you. So when they say 22 L but 5 of it are reserve, its just there way of saying they think you should fill up at 17 L. Of course you won't get very far on a tank if you do that.I find that with my car if for example I drive until it says I have 1 L remaining, I can usually fit in 22 L. So I'm always filling about 1 L more than what the tank capacity says it is.-Iain
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Posted 02 August 2007 - 05:02 AM

No no, it's cool, it's kind of confusing. :) The tank is 22 litres - a lot of people get hung up on the terminology of "reserve" but it's not like there's physically another -Iain

So, essentially, I have a 22 liter tank that I've never managed to fill up beyond 20 liters? I would think that if the lite indicates that there is 2 liters left, I should be able to add another 20 liters but the most I've managed to get in was 18. Jason

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 05:10 AM

You'll only be able to put 22+ litres in it if you drive to when your display flashes 1.0 or 0.5 or 0.0 L Remaining.You have to be really patient... fill until it snaps off, and keep trickling it in. Eventually you'll see liquid at the brim (not foam), but even at that point if you shake the car or hump on the tailgate you'll be able to get more in. Eddie3 would be a lot more qualified to give a better answer how to do this though, he can get 27 L into his tank without much difficulty. :)-Iain
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Posted 02 August 2007 - 07:26 AM

The same thing happens with my car. If my gauge is flashing 5 litres I can only get 15 litres in filling slowly so the foam is up to the rim. I think my gauge is off by 2 litres. Not a bad thing I thinkRoy
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Posted 02 August 2007 - 07:54 AM

Such an old conversation with all kinds of varying replies... ;-)This to say - you can have 28 litres in your tank.I regularly have about 25-26 after filling. There are approx 2 litres remaining after it says 0.0, but 'don't try that at home'.

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 10:24 AM

There are approx 2 litres remaining after it says 0.0, but 'don't try that at home'.

Go ahead and try it at home, especially if you have a can of diesel sitting around. Don't try it in the middle god-forsaken-nowhere. ;)
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Posted 02 August 2007 - 12:20 PM

at any rate dont run the car dry for the sake of testing this! that is far worse than underfilling!
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Posted 07 August 2007 - 11:34 AM

There are approx 2 litres remaining after it says 0.0, but 'don't try that at home'.

Does that mean that while the indicator is displaying 4.0 I actually have 6 liters remaining? Jason

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 11:39 AM

Yes, but don't use it!

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 12:00 PM

Yes, but don't use it!

Thanks Mike, That explains a lot. The best I'e done so far is 410 Km with 2.5 showing. Thiis was when I had less the 3000Km on the car and didn't know just how much 2.5 liters of fuel was. Jason

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 05:56 PM

After filling up Saturday at the Crescent Lake stop in Washington I made it back to Campbell River on one tank. After driving to work and back Monday I had 2 litres showing in the tank. I put 23 litres in the car. Fill, let the foam settle, fill, settle, shake the car, etc etc... it'll go in...it just takes time!
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Posted 07 August 2007 - 06:17 PM

at any rate dont run the car dry for the sake of testing this! that is far worse than underfilling!

injection pumps run extremily tight tolerances and use diesel as lubrication. I saw a two week old john deer tracter have a pump failure 7 hours after being run out of diesel and this was not coverd under warranty. Cost of pump aver $3000 so in my opinion its not worth finding how much the tank will hold. O ya it was a common rail engine just like the cdi in our cars just bigger




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