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#1 Treehugger

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 10:54 AM

Here is the scoop - at lunch time today my interior lights turned on and have not turned off since. I have:1. Checked the doors - they are closed2. Checked the hatch - window and door - they are closed3. Checked the switch on the dash - it's offThe lights have now been on for about 4 hours. They won't do the "auto" shut off after five minutes, they won't fade, they just stay lit. My dealer, in their brilliance has told me to come in tomorrow afternoon or the next morning (I think my battery might be dead by then...... :banghead: ) or call roadside assistance.Does anyone else have any ideas? :scowl:
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Posted 11 September 2007 - 11:26 AM

I don't. You checked all the usual suspects.You might want to take your car out for a 20 minute drive before you retire for the night just to charge up the battery.Later! Dang
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#3 Mike T

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 11:28 AM

Whip the bulbs out pending a repair.

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 02:17 PM

Whip the bulbs out pending a repair.

Or pull the fuse. Middle row, second one in, brown in color. That light is gonna be hot. RCAF
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Posted 11 September 2007 - 03:15 PM

Dont take this the wrong way...its just a suggestion based on the problems people have had in the past. But the "off" position for the dash switch is actually UP and not down like a household light switch. If you tried that already thats great other than it means you need a plan B until it gets looked at...I'd pull the light fuse rather than trying to get the bulbs out. Less chance of damaging the car and burning yourself.
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Posted 12 September 2007 - 03:54 AM

I went out to take the fuse out and realized my card for roadside assistance was in the house - I cursed VERY LOUDLY at this point, went in the house, came out.......and the light was off.I think I scared The Flea into submission......... :dominate: When I came in my wife asked "Did you fix it?"I replied, "Of course - it was no problem," and then went for the Havana Club.
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Posted 12 September 2007 - 11:01 AM

The "door ajar" light only works for the driver's door (on mine anyway). If the passenger door is not fully latched the lights will stay on, with no "door ajar" light showing.
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Posted 12 September 2007 - 11:08 AM

I think it must have had some weird electrical thing going on that "fixed" itself. As long as I don't wake up to see a pile of melted plastic and ashes in my garage I'm happy. On the other hand, my garage COULD use some work....hmmmm.
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Posted 12 September 2007 - 12:17 PM

I had the same problem recently. The light would go off if we locked the doors at least. It has misteriously fixed itself now... :dunno:
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 08:38 PM

Hi My front (not rear) interior light came on this afternoon, during a 90km journey. I checked doors and back etc and still it stayed on. Then this evening, the front left headlight & sidelight are not working. Is this just a coincidence? Does the front interior light come on (it's still on) if there is a problem with a bulb?Any advice will be appreciated as the manul is a bit unforthcoming :banghead: ThanksLaineha
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 09:00 PM

Mine has done this 2 times, I opened and slamed both doors, them 30 seconds later, it went out.It may be a faulty door switch

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 09:10 PM

OK thanks, I'll go and try that, hopefully it will work...I have a 2005 black on black pulse too!Laineha
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 09:36 PM

HiWell, I tried SLAMMING everything (quiet neighbourhood, late at night, set several dogs off) and something must have worked. Either that or the fact that my darling husband came out and just switched it off. I maintain that I did already try that; he just smiles indulgently...Thank you :fixed: TTFN Laineha
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Posted 22 September 2007 - 07:57 AM

On a somewhat related topic: I distinctly remember the dimmer switch and cigarette lighter trim ring being illuminated, but I can't remember the last time I saw them lit. Am I delusional?
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#15 Mike T

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Posted 22 September 2007 - 09:55 AM

Yes ;)Neither are/rwere illuminated.When you put the OEM smart fog light switch in, its symbol is illuminated, however.

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 09:08 AM

Had that happen to me this morning on my drive in to work... lights stayed on and then, the car wouldn't lock. Tried to lock & unlock it, tried both doors, etc. Even fished out the manual and tried the if-all-else-fails method in there (which didn't work). Still wouldn't lock. Lights still on, but now not the biggest problem. I was running through my mind all the things said on this forum about such situations (which fuse was it for the light; etc-- thanks guys, you helped avoid (a) panic and (B) a call to the CAA) as I tried everything I oculd think of. Something worked (not sure what) because it did eventually lock. It showed me the benefits of automatic locks with a key-lock option. Took about 20 minutes of trying, and if I hadn't been able to solve it, don't know what I would have done because can't leave it unlocked and there was no way to get it locked. Didn't even want to see if the damned lights finally went off :)Any ideas what could have caused such a problem?! I've had the car for only a week now, but it was bought used.Aliza
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#17 Mike T

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 11:35 AM

One side of your tailgate may not have been latched properly. Or one door.

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 11:11 AM

I know this thread is a few months old, but this is my first submission to Club Smart Forum. B) It is approaching the 1st anniversary for "our" 2006 Cabrio and this is the first problem I have had with the car. Put on 14,000 km with only the regular oil service at the dealership. This little Smart has done very well, even TWO road trips to New York City. He loved that. The little Frenchmen in the Big Apple!Like the other contributors I have had TWO cases over the past couple weeks where I can't lock the doors and the Dome light stays on. The car even "beeps" at me as I am driving. If I take my foot off break and gas it would switch to "O". In both cases the poltergeist fault seems to correct itself. I was so frustrated I drove to the dealer with the light on, car beeping and when I pulled into the service bay it was gone!I have tried, like everyone else, slam doors, even open/close roof. Still was there. I am wondering if it could be a moisture problem with one of the door sensors. We have had a TON of snow here in Ottawa this year and with the car in-out of our "heated" garage could it be moisture on some sensor?I would like to have some "evidence" to take to the dealer, because as you know, when I took the car in the last time and tried to explain what was wrong the service manager said that they have never heard of this issue.. Dah!Anway. Thanks for a great club site. I have been secretly reading and learning over the year. Perhaps now I can come out and give some advice or input to future threads.Thanks Club Smart members. :) CheersImSmtRu2

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 11:41 AM

I don't have a cabrio but, I know in coupe if my driver door sensor is activate then the car will beep as soon as a touch the gas pedal (diesel pedal). On the coupe the same type of sensor does not existing for the passenger door or rear hatch.Does the light turn off eventually, like 15 minutes? I think in the coupe it will. So, I would probably get the dealership to look at the driver door sensor first and go from there.PS: Welcome to the club.
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Posted 20 December 2007 - 01:05 PM

Hi, I had the same problem with my 2006 Grandstyle. I removed the interior light bulb and the bulb in the dash light and then discoverd that the dash light was broken. I took it to the dealer who installed a new dash light switch which solved my problem. I also replaced the interior light bulb with an LED bulb to avoid excessive heat so the headliner wouldn't discolor. Cliff - DR MAP
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Posted 21 December 2007 - 01:24 PM

Thanks ARTZ. Yes the light eventually goes out and it stops "beeping" at me. I think you are right about the driver door sensor. My daughter drove it the other day and never opened the back or passenger door and it gave her the same problem. We must be getting in and out of the car too much and not spending enough time driving.. ;) If it happens again I will take it in and have them check that sensor.Dr Map. I know my lights are OK, but good point on the LED light. Never thought that may happen. Guess I better go add that to my Christmas list at SmartieParts.Thanks for information. Much appreciated.CheersImSmrtRu2

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Posted 22 December 2007 - 01:05 PM

OK, so its not just Orange Crush with the Christine spooked car thing going on.
Today, I drive off and the auto door locks, well...lock. Then unlock. Then lock.
Also, the interior lights stay on. Then flicker off. Then back on.
At stop signs-lights, tranny slips to 0 and I get the beep treatment.

Some Xmas shopping, start stop, in and out, and then all was normal on the return trip.

I had a Volvo with on again off again electrical gremlins, really no fun and
today I had flashbacks to the colossal time and money waste that car turned out to be.
This has to be different. No, really it has to.


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Posted 22 December 2007 - 04:51 PM

Sounds like you need to have a heart-to-heart discussion with your dealer. Cliff
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Posted 22 December 2007 - 09:50 PM

It sounds like a wet SAM to me.Has the windscreen been replaced with a non-smart unit? NEVER get a non-smart windscreen....but maybe that's not it.

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 03:42 AM

The same sort of things have happened with our 2006 last night and this morning. Pretty well all the same symptoms you guys have mentioned which came out of nowhere. We did have a lot of rain yesterday so I'm thinking that amount of moisture "might" have something to do with it. I also noticed the transmission going to '0' when I was stopped but I thought I might have done something. Good to hear that this has been seen by others. The biggest pain is not being able to lock the darn thing. I doubt the dealer would know what to do unless this has been resolved elsewhere. Not too many smart cars around here so a smaller resource for learning. Nothing worse than when a "smart" car goes "stupid".

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 09:53 AM

My 2005 has the same symptoms. I'm surprised that none of the european boards mention this problem but maybe I'm searching for the wrong key words. Does anyone know where to start looking?Bob
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Posted 15 February 2008 - 05:15 PM

I haven't had any of the sorts of problems with locking, unlocking of doors, transmission going to zero, etc. that are described by smart_bob and Bobby Clobber. After I had the dealer replace the dash light switch, and installing a LED in the dome light, nothing but sweet times.
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Posted 15 February 2008 - 05:27 PM

Having this issue with my 2005 passion. Interior light stays on and the dash tells me a door is open when nothing is open. Multiple checks of the doors, hatch glass, and gate, everything is closed. Even bumping them when they are closed does not turn off the "your door is open" light on my clock and rpm cluster. It's been a very cold winter, and the car stays outside we also carry alot of objects with it, and the back of the seats and batch gate get beat up. I'd hope someone knows the cause and/or remedy to this problem.
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Posted 16 February 2008 - 07:55 AM

Update. Brought the car in to dealer yesterday. Of course, when I got out of it I tried to lock it.....And it did. everything working just fine and just in time to make me feel stupid. Anyway, they were aware that there's been problems like this so there was no issue of not believing me. When we went to pick it up, the work order indicated that a wiring harness had been replaced. I happened to speak with the mechanic and what he told me sounded somewhat different although reasonable. He indicated that some connections in the wiring harness in the battery box area were somewhat corroded (due to moisture) and that's why things were acting up. He took them apart, cleaned them up and put them back together however he noted he had now covered those connections with heat shrink tubing to help keep the moisture out. That should help. I think moisture problems have been noted by lots of other people as the source of other electrical (possibly mechanical) problems too.They also appear to have taken the door handles apart and freed up or lubricated those short cables in there. I've had some problems with those (both sides) in the past couple of months to the point of barely being able to lock the doors (found that when this happened if I held the door closed from the outside I could get the locking mechanism to catch). I've read a separate thread about this issue and am aware that this is considered to be a design problem (yet another one?) with the car.I generally really like this car but these little things sure can be a PITA.

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Posted 16 February 2008 - 07:52 PM

Update. Brought the car in to dealer yesterday. Of course, when I got out of it I tried to lock it.....And it did. everything working just fine and just in time to make me feel stupid. Anyway, they were aware that there's been problems like this so there was no issue of not believing me. When we went to pick it up, the work order indicated that a wiring harness had been replaced. I happened to speak with the mechanic and what he told me sounded somewhat different although reasonable. He indicated that some connections in the wiring harness in the battery box area were somewhat corroded (due to moisture) and that's why things were acting up. He took them apart, cleaned them up and put them back together however he noted he had now covered those connections with heat shrink tubing to help keep the moisture out. That should help. I think moisture problems have been noted by lots of other people as the source of other electrical (possibly mechanical) problems too. They also appear to have taken the door handles apart and freed up or lubricated those short cables in there. I've had some problems with those (both sides) in the past couple of months to the point of barely being able to lock the doors (found that when this happened if I held the door closed from the outside I could get the locking mechanism to catch). I've read a separate thread about this issue and am aware that this is considered to be a design problem (yet another one?) with the car. I generally really like this car but these little things sure can be a PITA.

Thanks! Moisture seems to have come up in many of the other user's issues, Was this a warrenty fix from your dealer? I'm poor. :)
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Posted 20 February 2008 - 08:04 AM

Sorry for not replying more quickly. I had to check. The work was done under warranty so there was no charge to us. And we did have a loaner which was also convenient. Our smart is a 2006 about 29 months old and with almost 29K on the odometer.

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Posted 20 February 2008 - 08:28 AM

Good day, Glad to hear that your problems have largely been solved. I am famiiar with your weather in St. John's having lived there from 1977 until 2005. When we moved to Ontario my first priority in housing was that it had to have a two car garage, and it is an extra wide garage, so plently of room. I don't drive DR MAP in the winter months, so have avoided moisture problems.
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Posted 20 February 2008 - 01:00 PM

there is a recall to move that board: http://clubsmartcar....topic=10330&hl= its possible that it control the dome light ? and moisture get in
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