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@  TheBestJohn : (27 November 2014 - 12:29 PM) looks like my altenator is done...
@  kdubya : (26 November 2014 - 11:38 PM) *posted a topic in the forum with pic attached*
@  kdubya : (26 November 2014 - 11:14 PM) Bought a galletto 1260 to remap, however the only options it gives for smarts are .6, 1.5 cdi, and a .9cdi?? Neither will read my car, anyone experience this?
@  Francesco : (26 November 2014 - 09:53 PM) Thanks! Told my wife a few weeks ago that's the only thing on my Xmas wish list this year! Sister calls me the Bad Driver Magnet
@  dmoonen : (26 November 2014 - 06:53 PM) Bought a couple dash cams, ps they're on sale at staples for $44. idiot drivers pushed me to the edge
@  turbomar : (22 November 2014 - 06:33 PM) Thanks for the tip lads! Going to Princess tomorrow
@  marchanna : (22 November 2014 - 05:57 PM) Princess Auto is the best! I live less than a Km from there.
@  Bessy : (22 November 2014 - 05:53 PM) Turbomar, Princess Auto has the socket for about $3. I've done 20 or so pairs of reluctors and haven't broken a socket yet.
@  dmoonen : (22 November 2014 - 09:48 AM) Yes it is Turbomar.
@  turbomar : (22 November 2014 - 07:38 AM) Is the socket size for the drive axle bolt to hub on the 450, 12 point 21mm?
@  dmoonen : (21 November 2014 - 03:41 PM) I think glow plug gets triggered by the coolant sensor
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 12:11 PM) I couldn't tell you for sure.
@  kdubya : (21 November 2014 - 11:39 AM) i played around a bunch, entered everything i could. i didn't see it anywhere. Is it something we know the Star can do?
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 09:52 AM) There are a whole lot of read outs in there, so you may have to dig around a bit, but that's where I would think they'd be.
@  kdubya : (21 November 2014 - 09:45 AM) k ill check. i want to make sure they are working. just a read out of temp
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 09:21 AM) probably under the "Engine" section
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 09:20 AM) Read out is likely under Systems>N3/9 (EDG control unit) > Actual Value Indicator, somewhere.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 09:18 AM) As in, configurable, or just a read out?
@  kdubya : (21 November 2014 - 08:58 AM) Anyone know where to find cylinder temp (glow plug function) on the Star??
@  FlossyTheSmart : (19 November 2014 - 11:38 AM) classic
@  Mike T : (19 November 2014 - 11:38 AM) Hodor
@  evotell : (19 November 2014 - 11:35 AM) Saying your own name, I don't get it?
@  dmoonen : (19 November 2014 - 10:52 AM) Saying your own name evotell :P
@  evotell : (19 November 2014 - 10:49 AM) evotell
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 06:29 PM) Well, we repaired the wires and its driving fine now... I guess I'll have to wait for another slushy day to be sure. Thanks for all the help guys!
@  Mike T : (18 November 2014 - 05:24 PM) This happened to our dearly departed green car too and the solution was that simple.
@  SkydiverChris : (18 November 2014 - 03:32 PM) Glad to hear that you may have found the cause Kurt! Keep us posted! It's almost never that simple.
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 12:00 PM) cost me close to $300 to tow from the Canadian border post at Hemingford to my driveway (80 km), and my car was up on blocks for two weeks while I tracked down and resolved the issues.
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 11:58 AM) jurist? During
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 11:58 AM) Yep, mine started acting up jurist a January thaw on a long steady drive through the country, then the car refused to move on a slushy day on a long steady drive on the same roads a week later. The slushy brine is both conductive and tenacious.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (18 November 2014 - 11:40 AM) That's probably it.
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 11:21 AM) So my friend with soldering skills is going to help me after work... I'm confident this will solve the problem. First slushy day we have so it must have splashed up there and shorted out.
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 10:25 AM) knock on wood, no recurrence after two winters and three summers.
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 10:25 AM) then wraped all in Tesa cloth harness tape ($20 a roll at MB, about the same off ebay)
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 10:24 AM) Yeah, mine was the same. I repaired the wires and coated the whole thing in Liquid Electrical Tape ($9 at CT)
@  stickman007 : (18 November 2014 - 10:20 AM) There's probably corrosion inside the sheath due to moisture getting in
@  FlossyTheSmart : (18 November 2014 - 07:29 AM) with the wires chafed, they're probably only intermittantly making good contact. Wrapping in electrical tape probably won't be able to keep the connection good.
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 07:26 AM) What if I wrap the chafed wires in electrical tape and try driving around?
@  FlossyTheSmart : (18 November 2014 - 07:21 AM) hopefully it's as simple as that!
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 07:11 AM) I immediately found 2 chafed wires at the connection to the clutch actuator!
@  dmoonen : (18 November 2014 - 05:49 AM) Majority of the problems are in the engine harness area right at the IC scoop. Removing the IC would give you more wiggle room and less curse words
@  dmoonen : (18 November 2014 - 05:47 AM) SAM to rear ecu travels under the carpet and right into the firewall behind the seats.
@  dmoonen : (18 November 2014 - 05:46 AM) Harness to two sections: 1:Rear ECU TO engine sensors and components. 2: Sam:Rear ECU.
@  dmoonen : (18 November 2014 - 05:44 AM) No you dont need to kurt, mainly around the intercooler scoop area and back youll be
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 04:27 AM) Do I have to remove any of the under panels to get to the harness?
@  KurtMan : (17 November 2014 - 04:33 PM) Well maybe if I need a star machine I'll send you a message Max!
@  FlossyTheSmart : (17 November 2014 - 04:20 PM) I think just me, Chris, and Troy have star machines in the Ottawa area.
@  KurtMan : (17 November 2014 - 04:03 PM) Any help would be appreciated!
@  SkydiverChris : (17 November 2014 - 03:58 PM) NOt sure if anyone out your way has a Star, but there are a couple people around Ottawa that do. If you're stuck, they may be able to help
@  KurtMan : (17 November 2014 - 03:56 PM) Thanks I appreciate it!

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Anyone Have the Magnetic oil pan heater from Canadian Tire?


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#1 steveyfrac

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 08:01 PM

I've looked at a bunch of different block heater options. The wolverine heater pads, and a bunch of different ones sold by Canadian Tire. One that looked interesting sticks on magnetically. There were also two that circulate warmed coolant.If the coolant ones will fit, i'd love to use those. Else i think i'll get the magnetic one. I assume the magnetic one I have to pull off every morning, and stick it back on every night? I could see that getting old fast.The wolverine pad looks interesting, but it's really low wattage, and I question it's ability to keep the car warm in a -25 degree wind. My car is parked way out in the open, and the wind cuts through it. My gasoline cars have trouble starting some days.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:13 AM

I did the oil pan heater and can give it a :thumbsup_anim: .It gets the job done and like you noticed doesn't draw a lot of electricity. I tried to get a group buy going in 2006 but there wasn't any interest. Seems like our little diesels will start in all but the most extreme cold days. Good luck!
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:17 AM

I've used the magnetic heater on an old truck, worked well.Didn't have to remove it every morning as there was enough space on the side of the block,not an option with these cars, I'm afraid.

2005 450 cdi passion blue w/power sunroof ,Softtouch transmission, ignition free power window conversion. Custom seat covers;"Poorman's push button start";Kofangar-Lasse's "450&1/2" font panel mod , euro front turn signal conversion w/led side blinkers,spin on oil filter adapter, SGII, Roadster wheel package W/ Moon wheel covers, AGM battery, after market TPMS, self installed clock & tach package, JVC stereo head unit,Full EGR delete w/emulator,120V space heater w/timer,TK Olsen's coolant restrictor plug, Willgoose's GT SS Exhaust,S-mann SS valance; Windshield wiper blade washer jets, Led angel eyes , under seat drawer; Self installed Webasto coolant heater.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:36 AM

I used the magnetic one last year. Was going to use the wolvering pad one but couldn't bring myself to take sandpaper the underside of the oil pan. Yes you have to take it off every morning and put it on every night, it's not that much of a hassle. Even with a wolverine pad you still end up fishing around in the snowbank for the extension cord anyways, so it's just an extra 5 seconds to put the pan heater on. I'm more of a fan of the oil pan heaters like the pad or the magnetic one as opposed to the in-line coolant heaters or block heaters because it's more important IMHO to have the oil in the pan warm when starting so that it gets circulating quickly to prevent wear. Anyways, two thumbs up for the mag heater from me, and I'll be using it again this year!
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:42 AM

I'm planning on getting the magnetic one for this winter. I agree that removing it every morning could be a hassle, but last year I only had about 5 days that I needed to plug my old car in. So if the weather stays the reasonable, it shouldn't be too bad.Wayne.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 05:53 AM

I installed the recirculating 750w heater from Canadian tire, It does fit. I had to remove the left headlight and overflow. I wanted to fit it to the heater lines but ended up hooking it to the 5/8 line that comes from the bottom rad hose to the bottom of the overflow.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 02:44 PM

Neat topic. I've got an old mag heater from years ago. Still works. I was given it for a car that had no block heater, till I finally installed a block heater. Still have it. Iris has got a block heater and lives in a garage so I probably don't need this. What you think?Anyone in Saskatchewan want it? I'll trade it for a large mocha and a boston cream donut at Timmy's with you :-)
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Blue with silver. Interior grey with black leather seats and wheel.
Panoramic roof, heated leather seats and side mirrors, mp3 aux on stereo, cup holder, power windows and mirrors, tach and clock pods, candy dish fashioned to look like an ashtray, passion alloy rims, air conditioning, "dancing" foot-well lights, spare 12v "always on" accessory plug, custom fabric privacy cover.
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Posted 04 October 2008 - 12:02 PM

Neat topic. I've got an old mag heater from years ago. Still works. I was given it for a car that had no block heater, till I finally installed a block heater. Still have it. Iris has got a block heater and lives in a garage so I probably don't need this. What you think? Anyone in Saskatchewan want it? I'll trade it for a large mocha and a boston cream donut at Timmy's with you :-)

Does it count if i send you a Timies gift certificate and a picture of myself drinking a hot chocolate? :P I bought an interior ceramic heater to warm the car prior to me getting in it this winter, instead of getting heated seats. It's a $70 ceramic heater, 900w from Canadian tire. Truthfully, it's probably overkill for the size of the car. I don't think it would have much trouble keeping a full sized van warm at -40. I'm going to be running it on a timer that has it come on about an hour before i have to drive. Problem is i don't have the cable that connects to the front of the car :( I bought the car used, and the cable wasn't included. I hope mercedez dosen't charge $200 for the cable. Mind you, if that's the case, it'll do a lookup on it, and build my own. If anyone is out there that dosent' need their cable, I'll buy it off you. I was looking for the pad style heater but didn't find one. Might check parts source, or order the wolverine pad. I'm less worried about it being ABLE to start, and more worried about it causing less wear, because everything is already warm.

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Posted 04 October 2008 - 02:53 PM

I let the ceramic heater run for an hour to see how it would do, and also, to ensure that the sides don't heat up. I want to mount it underneath the passenger seat so any appreciable heat gain is unacceptable. The sides stayed perfectly cool. Furthermore, it heated my house up to about 28 degrees. It's like a freakin sauna in here. Definately overkill for my application, but you can bet that i won't be scrapping any windows in the mornings this winter!

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 12:51 AM

Does it count if i send you a Timies gift certificate and a picture of myself drinking a hot chocolate? :P

LOL, photo huh? I really don't want to deal with shipping is the thing. I am terrible at getting snail mail out. Even letters can sit for up to a year before i actually get them in an envelope and another few months for a stamp, then, well, they're lucky if they get to a mailbox instead of lost or tossed for being obsolete. Packages? Oh dear. This thing isn't worth it, really. Cheaper to buy at the store than to mail anyway.
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Blue with silver. Interior grey with black leather seats and wheel.
Panoramic roof, heated leather seats and side mirrors, mp3 aux on stereo, cup holder, power windows and mirrors, tach and clock pods, candy dish fashioned to look like an ashtray, passion alloy rims, air conditioning, "dancing" foot-well lights, spare 12v "always on" accessory plug, custom fabric privacy cover.
Vanity plates "Iris 42," stereo bluetooth plug-in for mp3 player.
LiteGlow undercar LED color changing, music responsive, remote controlled novelty lighting kit, self installed.
Currently tarped with a damaged front left and damaged panels from a fender bender that totalled her. Parts car standing by for spring.

#11 steveyfrac

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 01:57 PM

LOL, photo huh? I really don't want to deal with shipping is the thing. I am terrible at getting snail mail out. Even letters can sit for up to a year before i actually get them in an envelope and another few months for a stamp, then, well, they're lucky if they get to a mailbox instead of lost or tossed for being obsolete. Packages? Oh dear. This thing isn't worth it, really. Cheaper to buy at the store than to mail anyway.

Ya I understand. :) I'm probably going to order the 9.1 wolverine pad. I'm actually tempted to get two, to make sure it's warm enough o.O.

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 04:14 PM

You don't need that much warmth, I wouldn't go that far. It helps if your car is in a sheltered area so there's less air movement to cool it, but really it doesn't take that much warmth to make a difference.
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Blue with silver. Interior grey with black leather seats and wheel.
Panoramic roof, heated leather seats and side mirrors, mp3 aux on stereo, cup holder, power windows and mirrors, tach and clock pods, candy dish fashioned to look like an ashtray, passion alloy rims, air conditioning, "dancing" foot-well lights, spare 12v "always on" accessory plug, custom fabric privacy cover.
Vanity plates "Iris 42," stereo bluetooth plug-in for mp3 player.
LiteGlow undercar LED color changing, music responsive, remote controlled novelty lighting kit, self installed.
Currently tarped with a damaged front left and damaged panels from a fender bender that totalled her. Parts car standing by for spring.

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 08:26 PM

You don't need that much warmth, I wouldn't go that far. It helps if your car is in a sheltered area so there's less air movement to cool it, but really it doesn't take that much warmth to make a difference.

Eh. My car is parked in more or less a windswept open field. Kinda anyways. I've had days where my gas cars barely start. I've also had snow drift over the entire car. I was grumpy that day IIRC. Two probably is overkill though i guess.

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Posted 06 October 2008 - 02:25 AM

Two would be overkill. You're other option is a webasto heater, but that is very expensive...webasto review.
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Posted 06 October 2008 - 05:23 AM

Two would be overkill. You're other option is a webasto heater, but that is very expensive...webasto review.

I've looked at the webasto, but it's too expensive to be realistic, despite being really really cool. My concern with the wolverine pad remains that it's too little heat to make a difference. Other block heaters solutions start at almost twice the power output. Mind you, heating the oil directly is probably a technically superior solution, and doesn't require as much power. Gah, ordering the wolverine pad. Pretty soon it'll be to cold to install anything.

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Posted 06 October 2008 - 05:26 AM

Do you have access to a hoist?
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Posted 06 October 2008 - 07:22 AM

Do you have access to a hoist?

Not really. :( I don't even have ramps.

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Posted 06 October 2008 - 07:36 AM

While looking at the Wolverine website I noticed they have an in-pan heater listed. That'd be the ideal if it would fit. It looks like it is 10.75" long though so it may not be use-able for the smart, but I wonder if someone else sells a smaller but same type element that threads into the oil pan.
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Posted 06 October 2008 - 08:11 AM

While looking at the Wolverine website I noticed they have an in-pan heater listed. That'd be the ideal if it would fit. It looks like it is 10.75" long though so it may not be use-able for the smart, but I wonder if someone else sells a smaller but same type element that threads into the oil pan.

I'd be paranoi about it leaking. I already freak out about checking my filter all the time to make sure there isn't a slow drip.

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Posted 06 October 2008 - 09:35 AM

I don't see why it would leak, if things are properly tightened with a proper gasket or crush washer, they should never have a problem.
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Posted 06 October 2008 - 10:21 AM

I don't see why it would leak, if things are properly tightened with a proper gasket or crush washer, they should never have a problem.

Oh i don't doubt that a secure instalation wouldn't be possible and practical. But i would doubt my own installation, much the same way as i doubt that i put the filter back on tight enough when i do my own oil changes.

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Posted 06 October 2008 - 12:02 PM

I'm researching a couple of different options this week. One garage offered to throw on one of the permanent stick-on type oil pan heaters for us, the wife's gonna comfirm the price this week.But I may have just found a better and less expensive solution. Looks like I could get a 4" x 4" oil pan heater for less than $55. It's 300W and it's the type that uses adjustable straps to bolt-on with a couple of the existing oil pan bolts.I don't have the car here to take a look, does anyone have any pics of the 451 engine's oil pan and/or know if this latter type of application is compatible? Are their pan bolts directly accross from each other?
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 08:57 AM

Does it count if i send you a Timies gift certificate and a picture of myself drinking a hot chocolate? :P I bought an interior ceramic heater to warm the car prior to me getting in it this winter, instead of getting heated seats. It's a $70 ceramic heater, 900w from Canadian tire. Truthfully, it's probably overkill for the size of the car. I don't think it would have much trouble keeping a full sized van warm at -40. I'm going to be running it on a timer that has it come on about an hour before i have to drive. Problem is i don't have the cable that connects to the front of the car :( I bought the car used, and the cable wasn't included. I hope mercedez dosen't charge $200 for the cable. Mind you, if that's the case, it'll do a lookup on it, and build my own. If anyone is out there that dosent' need their cable, I'll buy it off you. I was looking for the pad style heater but didn't find one. Might check parts source, or order the wolverine pad. I'm less worried about it being ABLE to start, and more worried about it causing less wear, because everything is already warm.

Princess Auto has a 500 watt heater on sale right now for $14.00 you can set it for 1000 watts but why would we? ;) I bought one, it's quite compact, I didn't get a cable with my car but have placed an order with a electronic supply house for an Amphenol plug.

2005 450 cdi passion blue w/power sunroof ,Softtouch transmission, ignition free power window conversion. Custom seat covers;"Poorman's push button start";Kofangar-Lasse's "450&1/2" font panel mod , euro front turn signal conversion w/led side blinkers,spin on oil filter adapter, SGII, Roadster wheel package W/ Moon wheel covers, AGM battery, after market TPMS, self installed clock & tach package, JVC stereo head unit,Full EGR delete w/emulator,120V space heater w/timer,TK Olsen's coolant restrictor plug, Willgoose's GT SS Exhaust,S-mann SS valance; Windshield wiper blade washer jets, Led angel eyes , under seat drawer; Self installed Webasto coolant heater.

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An Airedale standing beside a chauffeur & Rolls Royce.....may give the impression that he's there by choice.
95 Tacoma 4wd (with "just a few" mods), 2011 8x8 Argo, 60 year old 7.5 hp 800 lb antique Lister stationary Diesel


#24 martenswd

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 08:09 AM

I've been useing the magnetic one from canadian tire. Works great. It's kind of annoying having to reach under the car before and after each drive to stick it on but it was free (My dad had one collecting dust).
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#25 strawboss

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 08:36 AM

I'm researching a couple of different options this week. One garage offered to throw on one of the permanent stick-on type oil pan heaters for us, the wife's gonna comfirm the price this week. But I may have just found a better and less expensive solution. Looks like I could get a 4" x 4" oil pan heater for less than $55. It's 300W and it's the type that uses adjustable straps to bolt-on with a couple of the existing oil pan bolts. I don't have the car here to take a look, does anyone have any pics of the 451 engine's oil pan and/or know if this latter type of application is compatible? Are their pan bolts directly accross from each other?

If that heater falls through here's a Cdn supplier with a good price for a stick on heater, if you can lay your hands on some ramps the job is dead easy.... http://www.generator...pan-heaters.php

2005 450 cdi passion blue w/power sunroof ,Softtouch transmission, ignition free power window conversion. Custom seat covers;"Poorman's push button start";Kofangar-Lasse's "450&1/2" font panel mod , euro front turn signal conversion w/led side blinkers,spin on oil filter adapter, SGII, Roadster wheel package W/ Moon wheel covers, AGM battery, after market TPMS, self installed clock & tach package, JVC stereo head unit,Full EGR delete w/emulator,120V space heater w/timer,TK Olsen's coolant restrictor plug, Willgoose's GT SS Exhaust,S-mann SS valance; Windshield wiper blade washer jets, Led angel eyes , under seat drawer; Self installed Webasto coolant heater.

100_0569-1.jpg

An Airedale standing beside a chauffeur & Rolls Royce.....may give the impression that he's there by choice.
95 Tacoma 4wd (with "just a few" mods), 2011 8x8 Argo, 60 year old 7.5 hp 800 lb antique Lister stationary Diesel





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