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@  FlossyTheSmart : (27 November 2014 - 01:39 PM) We've got a how-to here ( http://clubsmartcar....&id=4&record=32 ), but a video is always best!
@  TheBestJohn : (27 November 2014 - 01:22 PM) Looks like another video opportunity
@  TheBestJohn : (27 November 2014 - 01:12 PM) Better than a new one haha
@  FlossyTheSmart : (27 November 2014 - 01:11 PM) and it sounds like you got a good deal ;)
@  TheBestJohn : (27 November 2014 - 01:09 PM) yes sir :)
@  FlossyTheSmart : (27 November 2014 - 01:08 PM) I guess you got in touch with him?
@  TheBestJohn : (27 November 2014 - 01:05 PM) man Troy is an awesome dude
@  TheBestJohn : (27 November 2014 - 12:50 PM) found it! Thanks man. I remember he was a big help when I did the reluctor ring replacement
@  FlossyTheSmart : (27 November 2014 - 12:49 PM) http://clubsmartcar....&id=5&record=11
@  FlossyTheSmart : (27 November 2014 - 12:49 PM) Nope, It's Troy Wilson Automotive. Gimme a second
@  TheBestJohn : (27 November 2014 - 12:48 PM) cause I cant find a number for them anywhere
@  TheBestJohn : (27 November 2014 - 12:47 PM) awesome Thats house of diesel right?
@  FlossyTheSmart : (27 November 2014 - 12:39 PM) And by "it", I meant the alternator from it
@  FlossyTheSmart : (27 November 2014 - 12:38 PM) Troy has a parts car at his shop right now. You could probably get a good deal on it.
@  TheBestJohn : (27 November 2014 - 12:29 PM) looks like my altenator is done...
@  kdubya : (26 November 2014 - 11:38 PM) *posted a topic in the forum with pic attached*
@  kdubya : (26 November 2014 - 11:14 PM) Bought a galletto 1260 to remap, however the only options it gives for smarts are .6, 1.5 cdi, and a .9cdi?? Neither will read my car, anyone experience this?
@  Francesco : (26 November 2014 - 09:53 PM) Thanks! Told my wife a few weeks ago that's the only thing on my Xmas wish list this year! Sister calls me the Bad Driver Magnet
@  dmoonen : (26 November 2014 - 06:53 PM) Bought a couple dash cams, ps they're on sale at staples for $44. idiot drivers pushed me to the edge
@  turbomar : (22 November 2014 - 06:33 PM) Thanks for the tip lads! Going to Princess tomorrow
@  marchanna : (22 November 2014 - 05:57 PM) Princess Auto is the best! I live less than a Km from there.
@  Bessy : (22 November 2014 - 05:53 PM) Turbomar, Princess Auto has the socket for about $3. I've done 20 or so pairs of reluctors and haven't broken a socket yet.
@  dmoonen : (22 November 2014 - 09:48 AM) Yes it is Turbomar.
@  turbomar : (22 November 2014 - 07:38 AM) Is the socket size for the drive axle bolt to hub on the 450, 12 point 21mm?
@  dmoonen : (21 November 2014 - 03:41 PM) I think glow plug gets triggered by the coolant sensor
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 12:11 PM) I couldn't tell you for sure.
@  kdubya : (21 November 2014 - 11:39 AM) i played around a bunch, entered everything i could. i didn't see it anywhere. Is it something we know the Star can do?
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 09:52 AM) There are a whole lot of read outs in there, so you may have to dig around a bit, but that's where I would think they'd be.
@  kdubya : (21 November 2014 - 09:45 AM) k ill check. i want to make sure they are working. just a read out of temp
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 09:21 AM) probably under the "Engine" section
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 09:20 AM) Read out is likely under Systems>N3/9 (EDG control unit) > Actual Value Indicator, somewhere.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 09:18 AM) As in, configurable, or just a read out?
@  kdubya : (21 November 2014 - 08:58 AM) Anyone know where to find cylinder temp (glow plug function) on the Star??
@  FlossyTheSmart : (19 November 2014 - 11:38 AM) classic
@  Mike T : (19 November 2014 - 11:38 AM) Hodor
@  evotell : (19 November 2014 - 11:35 AM) Saying your own name, I don't get it?
@  dmoonen : (19 November 2014 - 10:52 AM) Saying your own name evotell :P
@  evotell : (19 November 2014 - 10:49 AM) evotell
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 06:29 PM) Well, we repaired the wires and its driving fine now... I guess I'll have to wait for another slushy day to be sure. Thanks for all the help guys!
@  Mike T : (18 November 2014 - 05:24 PM) This happened to our dearly departed green car too and the solution was that simple.
@  SkydiverChris : (18 November 2014 - 03:32 PM) Glad to hear that you may have found the cause Kurt! Keep us posted! It's almost never that simple.
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 12:00 PM) cost me close to $300 to tow from the Canadian border post at Hemingford to my driveway (80 km), and my car was up on blocks for two weeks while I tracked down and resolved the issues.
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 11:58 AM) jurist? During
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 11:58 AM) Yep, mine started acting up jurist a January thaw on a long steady drive through the country, then the car refused to move on a slushy day on a long steady drive on the same roads a week later. The slushy brine is both conductive and tenacious.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (18 November 2014 - 11:40 AM) That's probably it.
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 11:21 AM) So my friend with soldering skills is going to help me after work... I'm confident this will solve the problem. First slushy day we have so it must have splashed up there and shorted out.
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 10:25 AM) knock on wood, no recurrence after two winters and three summers.
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 10:25 AM) then wraped all in Tesa cloth harness tape ($20 a roll at MB, about the same off ebay)
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 10:24 AM) Yeah, mine was the same. I repaired the wires and coated the whole thing in Liquid Electrical Tape ($9 at CT)
@  stickman007 : (18 November 2014 - 10:20 AM) There's probably corrosion inside the sheath due to moisture getting in

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#1 smartmom

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 10:04 AM

My smart went "bang" and stalled last friday - when I tried to accelerate out of a stop light. After two more stalls I got it to limp along in 1 st gear to a safe spot.After a tow to my dealer I learned that the clutch actuator needed to be replaced.Factory warranty was up last month, and the extended warranty I bought does not cover this.(not original owner by a month and a half so not the smart warranty)Repair cost is $844 - it could be worse.
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 10:08 AM

I'm kinda curious... has anyone ever considered rigging up some sort of manual override device? As in some sort of mechanical piston/solenoid setup to override the clutch actuator when it goes? Since the clutch appears to be dual-normal, it wouldn't seem all that hard to rig up something "Red-Green Style" to have manual control over the clutch...
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#3 smartmom

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 10:13 AM

Hey, I had never heard of a clutch actuator before this morning.I turn on the key and magic happens. My scangage showed no codes, so I hoped the problem was not serious.
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#4 Mike T

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 11:25 AM

The actuator doesn't give ScanGauge codes. My actuator failed definitively at 88,000 km, cost all in was $750, It was allowing clutch slip on upshifts. Nearly 50,000 km on, it's fine.....I kept the old one, which might have only needed a bit of a lube.

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#5 billr

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 11:53 AM

I lubed mine last week when I did the B service. Is there any adjustment check, or is that a MB function with the computer? Any need to have it done as preventative?
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#6 Mike T

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 09:12 PM

Yes, there are three electronic clutch adjustments that should be performed every second service or so.

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#7 billr

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 09:15 PM

Thanks Mike.
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 09:24 PM

Hi, New to the club here!I had my clutch actuator fail in an intersection, at only 55,992Km <_< . Lucky, for me, I was able to limp it into the dealer, cost $85.01

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 09:25 PM

opps for got a zero Cost was $850.01

#10 bilgladstone

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 09:33 PM

Yes, there are three electronic clutch adjustments that should be performed every second service or so.

Eddy did mine on the way to Vancouver Island. Second time adjusted in 80,000km. Lubed it myself once a year. This last adjustment was really a micro-tweak by request and it is absolutely plusquamperfectum!

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 02:40 AM

Smartmom Is the extende warranty you bought from m/b dealer or from elseware because i thought the m/b one covered the same as the one that came with the car ?

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:34 AM

Hi, New to the club here! I had my clutch actuator fail in an intersection, at only 55,992Km <_< . Lucky, for me, I was able to limp it into the dealer, cost $85.01

They showed you the cost on a warranty work order? That's different. Edit: typo. Speedie, can we finally disable the edit time-stamp for new posts? Say, give a 10 minute grace period. I've ALWAYS hated it the way we have it set.

Edited by SameGuy, 28 October 2009 - 04:35 AM.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 03:15 PM

Have to find if there is a setting for that - also will need approval from the grand high poohpbahs.Cheers,Cameron
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#14 Mike T

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 03:42 PM

I've been asking for that for years, last word was it's doable but not wanted for some reason.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:15 PM

The previous administration preferred it the way it is now. Mike and I have complained about it since Day One.
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#16 Speedie

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 09:19 PM

You mean the previous-previous adminstration - matters not a hoot to me - get Glenn etc. blessing and I will make it happenMeanwhile - has anyone taken apart a failed actuator to see what gave up the ghost? The sector gear wear out or did the motor bag it from too much friction?Seem to recall a picture but I will have to do some digging so if some one has better grey matter and can remember off hand.Cheers,Cameron
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#17 Mike T

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 09:40 PM

I still have mine but there are warnings all over it about NOT taking it apart (mega springs inside).

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#18 smartmom

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 10:47 PM

"Is the extended warranty you bought from m/b dealer or from elseware because i thought the m/b one covered the same as the one that came with the car ?"I bought my extended warranty from the m/b dealer, but it was not the warranty offered to original owners.Mine is a "Secure Drive" Plus warranty by Sovereign Insurance - sold by my m/b dealer.My car had a previous owner and a couple of hundred kms when I got it. I was worried about the yearly A/C fixes I have needed and the unlikely but possible catastrophic engine blow up.the coverage looked pretty good, but a clutch actuator was not included -
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Posted 29 October 2009 - 05:31 AM

...But the clutch actuator should be covered under the standard 4 year/80,000 Km warranty. When was the car first registered?
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#20 Speedie

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 09:08 AM

Put a bucket on your head and go for it Mike! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Strange they wouldn't cover the accuator - even for wear and tear - that low of mileage for a major component failure is not considered normal.Cheers,Cameron
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#21 smartmom

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 09:44 AM

"But the clutch actuator should be covered under the standard 4 year/80,000 Km warranty. When was the car first registered? "My car was first registered about Sept. 22/ 05 - not by me. I was about 6 weeks past the factory warranty. Under 50,000 Kms.I tend to keep vehicles 10+ years, so more warranty is better peace of mind for me. (clutch actuators problems or not.)
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 10:55 AM

Question about the clutch actuator lubbing. What type of lube does it take? Is there a grease serk? If so what type of grease? I just put on 1,800 miles last week which took me to 21,350 miles. I am in VA and there is no place to get the B service done on our 03 European Gas smart so I will have to wait until I get back to the WA area to get it done.ThanksDennis

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 12:31 PM

Question about the clutch actuator lubbing. What type of lube does it take? Is there a grease serk? If so what type of grease? I just put on 1,800 miles last week which took me to 21,350 miles. I am in VA and there is no place to get the B service done on our 03 European Gas smart so I will have to wait until I get back to the WA area to get it done. Thanks Dennis

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