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@  Mike T : (24 March 2015 - 06:21 PM) If they and you are sure of the diagnosis, it's a good idea to go ahead.
@  Chicklet : (24 March 2015 - 11:21 AM) Love my little car but lately has a big appetite on expensive parts! Haha
@  Chicklet : (24 March 2015 - 11:20 AM) This question is about the oil pump chain problem from a couple of days ago. Heard that the sound(a chain sort of rattle when you let off the accelerator) could also be from the clutch plate. Does this sound like something that is a possibility. MB in Nanaimo wants about $2200.00 to change the oil pump change. Just trying to get a little more feed back on others who have had some same issues.
@  Bessy : (24 March 2015 - 11:16 AM) Hey!
@  Chicklet : (24 March 2015 - 11:15 AM) Hi
@  dmoonen : (22 March 2015 - 05:52 PM) Mhm the turbo does sounds off. . like its saying help me.
@  Mike T : (22 March 2015 - 12:18 PM) Yeah it is whistling too much due to the bent fin.
@  David_18 : (22 March 2015 - 12:13 PM) Just a lot of whistle for me.
@  kdubya : (22 March 2015 - 12:11 PM) hmmmm, sounds like mine.....maybe I should check. :( I did hear a buzzing I think. Is that what you meant?
@  David_18 : (22 March 2015 - 12:01 PM) Listen :)
@  David_18 : (22 March 2015 - 12:00 PM) Nothing related with the starting problem. It just make more sound than usual.
@  kdubya : (22 March 2015 - 11:50 AM) If its been like that for a while and works great what makes you think something is wrong with it now?
@  David_18 : (22 March 2015 - 11:48 AM) I know, it is like that since 4-5 years, but it still work great.
@  Mike T : (22 March 2015 - 11:41 AM) Yup that turbo has eaten something, very nasty!
@  kdubya : (22 March 2015 - 11:29 AM) somethings def wrong. That's how the turbo looks in my parts car that had an oil pump failure. And it looks like one of your fins are bent
@  David_18 : (22 March 2015 - 10:34 AM) I think something wrong with my turbo... https://lh4.googleus...0322_133347.jpg
@  Francesco : (22 March 2015 - 08:35 AM) gawd I hate that stuff. She gets it done every year. And her 12 yr old car w/60k has more signs of rust than our 13 yr old Accord w/160k that's never been rust treated.
@  Francesco : (22 March 2015 - 08:33 AM) "Rust proofing" places do worse. Mom's Corolla was overheating last summer. Popped the hood, there was a half inch of black (commercial) rust-proof spray on both sides of her rad.
@  dmoonen : (21 March 2015 - 03:14 PM) Which is still a pain . . and alllllllot of time
@  Francesco : (21 March 2015 - 01:33 PM) You need a cooling fin comb
@  dmoonen : (21 March 2015 - 01:24 PM) Yeah it flattens the fins causing over heating conditions. . . Not ideal
@  Mike T : (21 March 2015 - 09:57 AM) never use high pressure washers on a radiator or intercooler!
@  Msdumo : (21 March 2015 - 09:50 AM) msdumo, a newbie trying out shout
@  Clancy : (21 March 2015 - 08:29 AM) When I got my smart everything was clean & shiny behind the grill at 9000 Km. Now at 12000 Km it is dirty & grimey from the road. Is it OK to take off the front grill & spray shampoo & rinse there at the coin-op?
@  RoadHound : (21 March 2015 - 06:01 AM) http://www.amazon.co...Z3rL&ref=plSrch
@  RoadHound : (21 March 2015 - 05:59 AM) Found this on amazon and I don't know where to put it. http://www.amazon.co...a9LL&ref=plSrch
@  Chicklet : (20 March 2015 - 03:25 PM) Thanks, that good information. Will check it out.
@  Mike T : (20 March 2015 - 12:01 PM) OK with that further information I suspect the oil pump drive chain. Take the oil filter out, cut it open and look for metal flakes inside.
@  Chicklet : (20 March 2015 - 11:49 AM) Thanks Mike T for responding. It almost sounds more grinding/clicking like a chain having too much play. Never gearing up just when slowing or gearing down. Could there be filing in the transmission or low on fluid do this. Would a transmission flush be the first coarse of action. Thanks for your thoughts.
@  Mike T : (19 March 2015 - 07:46 PM) I am thinking of an exhaust leak.
@  Chicklet : (19 March 2015 - 03:34 PM) Sorry posted before I could say what the problem is. When my car shifts down it sounds like jake brakes on a large truck going sown hill( maybe not that loud thought) This occurs when I let off the gas. Doesn't sound good. I do not have problems shifting or anything just noisy when it shifts down. Could transmission fluid be low?
@  Chicklet : (19 March 2015 - 03:29 PM) Its been awhile since I have been here, but I having an issue not sure where i should start without incurring undo exspensive.
@  Chicklet : (19 March 2015 - 03:28 PM) Hi,

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#1 triumph17

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 04:22 AM

Canadian Tire has a sale on Mobil 1 oil starting tomorrow and I wanted to knowwhich viscosity to buy for my 2008 Pure?Thanks for any advise.

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 06:59 AM

0W40 meets the MB 229.5 spec.

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 07:12 AM

What's the requirement for the 451?

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#4 Fred J

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 12:24 PM

Canadian Tire has a sale on Mobil 1 oil starting tomorrow and I wanted to know which viscosity to buy for my 2008 Pure? Thanks for any advise.

What does your owner's manual say?

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 02:29 PM

Canadian Tire has a sale on Mobil 1 oil starting tomorrow and I wanted to know which viscosity to buy for my 2008 Pure? Thanks for any advise.

From past experience, they seldom have the 0W40 on sale and they only sell it in 1L bottles. I stocked up on Castrol Syntec 5W40 when it was on sale recently for about $29.00/4.4L. It complies with MB 229.1 and 229.3 which should be OK for my cdi Smart. Check your manual. It should tell you what to use. I use Syntec in two of my other benzes, but my old diesel 300D gets 5W50 or 15W50 depending on what is available.
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Posted 09 September 2010 - 03:31 PM

From past experience, they seldom have the 0W40 on sale and they only sell it in 1L bottles.

Yes, they only seem to stock 0W40 in 1 L bottles, but if they advertise Mobil 1 products on sale, all you need to do is ask. If what you are looking for isn't in stock, they will order it for you at the sale price. I did that at a local CT store and got a rain cheque. Picked up 18 bottles (3 cases) :D

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#7 Mike T

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 03:43 PM

My rain check of Mobil 1 0W40 came in at under $5/L (I think they made a mistake!). ;)

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#8 Graham

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 05:32 PM

I changed the oil in our Smart tonight - It was done in April, but seeing car (cdi) is new to us, I thought I would change it early. Used Syntec 5W40.One thing I noticed was that first time I checked with dipstick, level was near top. But if I cleaned dipstick and rechecked, it would be lower - maybe 75%. I did this several times. Always first measurement was higher. Can't understand why....
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#9 Fred J

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 07:02 AM

One thing I noticed was that first time I checked with dipstick, level was near top. But if I cleaned dipstick and rechecked, it would be lower - maybe 75%. I did this several times. Always first measurement was higher. Can't understand why....

Did you use the proper method of dip checking as instructed in the owner's manual, do you do the quick stick it in, pull it out method in unheated oil? The results will be quite diferent and the reason for doing it the proper way will be obvious.

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 11:39 AM

The reason for this is that the crankshaft counterweights are splashing vigourously in the oil when the engine is running, which will push oil up the dipstick a ways.When checking oil, NEVER use the newly withdrawn dipstick as representing the actual oil level. Put it in after wiping it off, wait 1 minute then withdraw it, to get a proper reading.

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#11 Graham

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 01:40 PM

The reason for this is that the crankshaft counterweights are splashing vigourously in the oil when the engine is running, which will push oil up the dipstick a ways. When checking oil, NEVER use the newly withdrawn dipstick as representing the actual oil level. Put it in after wiping it off, wait 1 minute then withdraw it, to get a proper reading.

I did it the proper way. Except because I had just changed oil, only engine was warm, not oil. I was checking that I had put in the correct amount. To be honest, I had not read the manual. But I just did, and that is how I would check oil level on any car. What I was saying, is that I get a high reading first time I check by inserting cleaned dipstick. Then if I repeat the clean and insert, subsequent readings are all lower. Can only think that first time some oil on side of tube gets deposited on stick first time it is inserted. Either way, I am either 90% full or 75% full! But will check it again (haven't driven car since oil was changed). BTW - Just got a flyer from West Marine - They have their vacuum oil extractors on sale for $59.95. 6.5L, I believe. I have a larger unit of similar design made by Mity-Vac. It sucks and discharges. Great unit - I have had it for quite a while and use it on all cars except my SL (which has to be drained). On most MBs, the oil can be sucked up the diptube - that is how many shops do it. I imagine that is how MB intended cdi engine to be done too, although it seems a little extra oil can be sucked out by inserting tube all the way.

Edited by Graham, 10 September 2010 - 01:47 PM.

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 02:00 PM

My rain check of Mobil 1 0W40 came in at under $5/L (I think they made a mistake!). ;)

Gotta luv those kinds of mistakes :D :D

Edited by Leadwing, 10 September 2010 - 02:00 PM.

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#13 Mike T

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 03:33 PM

The oil filter filled up? That would take about a quarter litre.....

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