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@  dmoonen : (06 July 2015 - 04:35 PM) In all seriousness about $150
@  dmoonen : (06 July 2015 - 04:33 PM) Two million doll hairs.
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 01:59 PM) and how much is this stalk..?
@  dmoonen : (06 July 2015 - 01:58 PM) Yes you need a new stalk, and just need to activate it with a STAR Machine.
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 01:02 PM) (and yes, your car is pretty much most of what I want on a smart...)
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 01:02 PM) how does the cruise control thing works? Do I need to get a new stalk?
@  Mike T : (06 July 2015 - 12:54 PM) Luckily my car already came with Nappa leather/ Alcantara seats, wide 15 inch rims and so on. Just had to add the finishing touches.
@  Mike T : (06 July 2015 - 12:53 PM) Eddy sells remaps at $300 occasionally, as well as cruise control (OEM)
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:10 PM) wraping? (myself) 500...
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:09 PM) remap? 500...
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:08 PM) interior? ( leather+sound) ANOTHER 2k
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:07 PM) suspension? 2k.
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:07 PM) wheels with tires? 2k (following your advice and using 15"s...)
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:07 PM) I was crunching numbers, and is likely that I'll end up spending around 7k more... :/
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:06 PM) no, I spent less than 3.5k on the car
@  Mike T : (06 July 2015 - 12:05 PM) I spent about $3300 on upgrades to my Tailor Made BRABUS diesel...
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:04 PM) spent*
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:03 PM) first thing that I did was the keyless knob mod
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:02 PM) and no, stock is definitelly not the goal
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:01 PM) I spend less than 3.5k on it
@  dmoonen : (06 July 2015 - 11:47 AM) Normal for myself. . things dont stay stock long.
@  Mike T : (06 July 2015 - 10:57 AM) That depends upon how much you paid for it
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 09:48 AM) is it normal to want to spend more than twice that I spent on the car itself on "Upgrades"?
@  Francesco : (06 July 2015 - 09:08 AM) Yep. I know that urge all too well.
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 07:37 AM) but I'll do the non-smart thing and dump lots of money to do everything I can to make it the "perfect" smart
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 07:28 AM) under normal driving conditions*
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 07:28 AM) it's VERY subtle, though. under normal (AKA, not dickhead mode) the car behaves quite well
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 07:27 AM) nope. in fact, the car is aligned ( I suspected the steering rack at first)
@  dmoonen : (06 July 2015 - 07:11 AM) does it pull to a side?
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:28 PM) and if I brake REAL hard I feel a clunk on the steering wheel)
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:27 PM) the springs are not broken (as far as I could see, at least)
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:26 PM) ( I like toffee, it goes well with pearl)
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:26 PM) nah, I don't. But I want to do something different: Toffee and chesterfield inserts in gray
@  Francesco : (05 July 2015 - 11:26 PM) yeah, clunks are bad. Ball joints more than likely, but could also be sway bar links or even a broken spring (very common)
@  Francesco : (05 July 2015 - 11:24 PM) if you have a leather guy, that's awesome. Mister Dotcom used to supply fitted pieces in the original smart leather. There's a trim shop in the UK now that does our cars but not sure how close it is to the original dark grey leather
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:23 PM) and the front has some clunks when I go too hard on a pothole.
@  Francesco : (05 July 2015 - 11:23 PM) nice
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:22 PM) this car, although is a rebuilt, has only 65k on it
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:22 PM) yeah... my plan is: wheels/tires, suspension (nothing too fancy, I don't want to drop the car), Eddie's remap, put leather on the interior and wrap it in pearl white
@  Francesco : (05 July 2015 - 11:21 PM) twit hinges? Twitchiness... Lol
@  Francesco : (05 July 2015 - 11:21 PM) On our cars? The bushings will resolve some squeaks and some of the twit hinges on uneven bends. But overall, only do it if you suspect your bushes are worn out. I've only done the rear link bushings
@  Francesco : (05 July 2015 - 11:19 PM) Yeah, you'll notice a better suspension, though former, makes the ride more bearable. It's counterintuitive, but ask any of the local YVR smarties who've done that.
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:19 PM) (the wheels)
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:19 PM) they're european (Poland)
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:18 PM) speaking o that, is there any REAL advantage on those powerflex bushings?
@  Francesco : (05 July 2015 - 11:18 PM) you won't regret an upgrade to those sizes.
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:17 PM) suspension will come later ( my tires are going the way of the dodo...)
@  Francesco : (05 July 2015 - 11:17 PM) its a great price, especially if you have a US mailing address available. Chances are they are made in Asia, but I've only ver paid Gst/pst on Asian stuff other than shoes.
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:17 PM) yep... this is what I'm planning to do... 175 and 195.
@  Francesco : (05 July 2015 - 11:16 PM) oh, and while I'm at it: you will simply not benefit from wider tires (on any size rims) without suspension upgrades. At most, consider Mike's suggestion of 175/195 on 15s, which is the stock setup on the 450 pulse in europe

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#1 triumph17

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 04:22 AM

Canadian Tire has a sale on Mobil 1 oil starting tomorrow and I wanted to knowwhich viscosity to buy for my 2008 Pure?Thanks for any advise.

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 06:59 AM

0W40 meets the MB 229.5 spec.

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 07:12 AM

What's the requirement for the 451?

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#4 Fred J

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 12:24 PM

Canadian Tire has a sale on Mobil 1 oil starting tomorrow and I wanted to know which viscosity to buy for my 2008 Pure? Thanks for any advise.

What does your owner's manual say?

#5 Graham

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 02:29 PM

Canadian Tire has a sale on Mobil 1 oil starting tomorrow and I wanted to know which viscosity to buy for my 2008 Pure? Thanks for any advise.

From past experience, they seldom have the 0W40 on sale and they only sell it in 1L bottles. I stocked up on Castrol Syntec 5W40 when it was on sale recently for about $29.00/4.4L. It complies with MB 229.1 and 229.3 which should be OK for my cdi Smart. Check your manual. It should tell you what to use. I use Syntec in two of my other benzes, but my old diesel 300D gets 5W50 or 15W50 depending on what is available.
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Posted 09 September 2010 - 03:31 PM

From past experience, they seldom have the 0W40 on sale and they only sell it in 1L bottles.

Yes, they only seem to stock 0W40 in 1 L bottles, but if they advertise Mobil 1 products on sale, all you need to do is ask. If what you are looking for isn't in stock, they will order it for you at the sale price. I did that at a local CT store and got a rain cheque. Picked up 18 bottles (3 cases) :D

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#7 Mike T

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 03:43 PM

My rain check of Mobil 1 0W40 came in at under $5/L (I think they made a mistake!). ;)

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#8 Graham

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 05:32 PM

I changed the oil in our Smart tonight - It was done in April, but seeing car (cdi) is new to us, I thought I would change it early. Used Syntec 5W40.One thing I noticed was that first time I checked with dipstick, level was near top. But if I cleaned dipstick and rechecked, it would be lower - maybe 75%. I did this several times. Always first measurement was higher. Can't understand why....
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#9 Fred J

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 07:02 AM

One thing I noticed was that first time I checked with dipstick, level was near top. But if I cleaned dipstick and rechecked, it would be lower - maybe 75%. I did this several times. Always first measurement was higher. Can't understand why....

Did you use the proper method of dip checking as instructed in the owner's manual, do you do the quick stick it in, pull it out method in unheated oil? The results will be quite diferent and the reason for doing it the proper way will be obvious.

#10 Mike T

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 11:39 AM

The reason for this is that the crankshaft counterweights are splashing vigourously in the oil when the engine is running, which will push oil up the dipstick a ways.When checking oil, NEVER use the newly withdrawn dipstick as representing the actual oil level. Put it in after wiping it off, wait 1 minute then withdraw it, to get a proper reading.

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#11 Graham

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 01:40 PM

The reason for this is that the crankshaft counterweights are splashing vigourously in the oil when the engine is running, which will push oil up the dipstick a ways. When checking oil, NEVER use the newly withdrawn dipstick as representing the actual oil level. Put it in after wiping it off, wait 1 minute then withdraw it, to get a proper reading.

I did it the proper way. Except because I had just changed oil, only engine was warm, not oil. I was checking that I had put in the correct amount. To be honest, I had not read the manual. But I just did, and that is how I would check oil level on any car. What I was saying, is that I get a high reading first time I check by inserting cleaned dipstick. Then if I repeat the clean and insert, subsequent readings are all lower. Can only think that first time some oil on side of tube gets deposited on stick first time it is inserted. Either way, I am either 90% full or 75% full! But will check it again (haven't driven car since oil was changed). BTW - Just got a flyer from West Marine - They have their vacuum oil extractors on sale for $59.95. 6.5L, I believe. I have a larger unit of similar design made by Mity-Vac. It sucks and discharges. Great unit - I have had it for quite a while and use it on all cars except my SL (which has to be drained). On most MBs, the oil can be sucked up the diptube - that is how many shops do it. I imagine that is how MB intended cdi engine to be done too, although it seems a little extra oil can be sucked out by inserting tube all the way.

Edited by Graham, 10 September 2010 - 01:47 PM.

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 02:00 PM

My rain check of Mobil 1 0W40 came in at under $5/L (I think they made a mistake!). ;)

Gotta luv those kinds of mistakes :D :D

Edited by Leadwing, 10 September 2010 - 02:00 PM.

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#13 Mike T

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 03:33 PM

The oil filter filled up? That would take about a quarter litre.....

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