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@  KurtMan : (30 September 2014 - 12:49 PM) It was in fact the PY21 bulb that was burnt, the Canadian Tire associate insisted his computer system was correct and gave me 7528 bulbs. So I will return the bulbs and educate him when I return ��
@  stickman007 : (29 September 2014 - 02:29 PM) I bought a set of triple square from Mac Tools...the only one I ever use was 8mm for the CV
@  Francesco : (29 September 2014 - 09:16 AM) Yeah, ok. Buddy brought over his wife's 2000 Beetle TDI for a detail and I wanted to adjust the doors, but the strikers and hinges both had triple square bolts.
@  dmoonen : (29 September 2014 - 09:01 AM) Had to buy a couple sets for working on my vw's, basicly bbs rims, axels and a outher parts require them including the injector pump on the ALH's. I don't think there's a single one on the smarts that I recall mostly torx, etorx and standard sockets.
@  dmoonen : (29 September 2014 - 08:59 AM) VW need them but smarts no so much
@  Francesco : (29 September 2014 - 08:41 AM) I never noticed, does the 450 use any triple-square bolts? Does the 451? The set will be handy for when I work on Dubs, but was wondering about smarts, too.
@  Francesco : (28 September 2014 - 09:38 PM) The turn signal bulb? Or the bulb that would normally go in the empty BA15s socket below the top brake lamp? The TS is PY21W or P21W, while the one in the empty socket is R5W (207), a 5 Watt bulb. Note than on Canadian 450s that socket isn't connected to any power or earth.
@  KurtMan : (28 September 2014 - 06:00 PM) Thanks guys, I forgot to say it's a 450.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (28 September 2014 - 05:37 PM) WHich is a yellow bulb, despite being behind a red lens
@  FlossyTheSmart : (28 September 2014 - 05:36 PM) Oh, missed the lower break light correction. I think that is a PY21W
@  FlossyTheSmart : (28 September 2014 - 05:32 PM) I want to say P21W - I was just changing bulbs on my cabrio yesterday and it's actually on the plastic casing what bulbs are meant to go there - that's what I remember. I'm sure Evilution will have it there somewhere too.
@  marchanna : (28 September 2014 - 03:07 PM) I'm not sure if 450's are the same
@  marchanna : (28 September 2014 - 03:07 PM) On 451 models it's a 7528
@  marchanna : (28 September 2014 - 03:03 PM) What year?
@  KurtMan : (28 September 2014 - 02:52 PM) *I should specify lower break light.
@  KurtMan : (28 September 2014 - 02:48 PM) Does anyone know what the bulb type is in the lower part of a cabrio tail light?
@  amr530711 : (27 September 2014 - 02:16 PM) it's got a hard short on the black cable running from the positive post to the rear of the car - does that connect to the starter or to the alternator? This car seems to eat alternators, and the blackout happened at roughly the same time as the alternator would kick in, just a couple of seconds after moving forward.
@  stickman007 : (27 September 2014 - 01:52 PM) Check your connection at the battery terminals? I think somebody here in the forum had the battery cable melted once...
@  amr530711 : (27 September 2014 - 11:55 AM) hey everyone! I'm having a hard time with the new search, I'm looking for information about a total electrical failure. I started the car, drove about 50 feet, it bucked, the instrument cluster went out, back on, then completely off. and now I have no electrics at all. no four way flashers, can't roll up the window, car won't lock, absolutely nothing happens when I turn the key. Not sure what words to use in the search. any help would be appreciated
@  Francesco : (27 September 2014 - 07:10 AM) And a whole set of triple square bits off Amazon for $25. SnapOn rep said they're special order, and each bit is close to $30!!!

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#1 triumph17

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 04:22 AM

Canadian Tire has a sale on Mobil 1 oil starting tomorrow and I wanted to knowwhich viscosity to buy for my 2008 Pure?Thanks for any advise.

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 06:59 AM

0W40 meets the MB 229.5 spec.

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 07:12 AM

What's the requirement for the 451?
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Posted 09 September 2010 - 12:24 PM

Canadian Tire has a sale on Mobil 1 oil starting tomorrow and I wanted to know which viscosity to buy for my 2008 Pure? Thanks for any advise.

What does your owner's manual say?

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 02:29 PM

Canadian Tire has a sale on Mobil 1 oil starting tomorrow and I wanted to know which viscosity to buy for my 2008 Pure? Thanks for any advise.

From past experience, they seldom have the 0W40 on sale and they only sell it in 1L bottles. I stocked up on Castrol Syntec 5W40 when it was on sale recently for about $29.00/4.4L. It complies with MB 229.1 and 229.3 which should be OK for my cdi Smart. Check your manual. It should tell you what to use. I use Syntec in two of my other benzes, but my old diesel 300D gets 5W50 or 15W50 depending on what is available.
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Posted 09 September 2010 - 03:31 PM

From past experience, they seldom have the 0W40 on sale and they only sell it in 1L bottles.

Yes, they only seem to stock 0W40 in 1 L bottles, but if they advertise Mobil 1 products on sale, all you need to do is ask. If what you are looking for isn't in stock, they will order it for you at the sale price. I did that at a local CT store and got a rain cheque. Picked up 18 bottles (3 cases) :D
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#7 Mike T

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 03:43 PM

My rain check of Mobil 1 0W40 came in at under $5/L (I think they made a mistake!). ;)

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#8 Graham

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 05:32 PM

I changed the oil in our Smart tonight - It was done in April, but seeing car (cdi) is new to us, I thought I would change it early. Used Syntec 5W40.One thing I noticed was that first time I checked with dipstick, level was near top. But if I cleaned dipstick and rechecked, it would be lower - maybe 75%. I did this several times. Always first measurement was higher. Can't understand why....
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Posted 10 September 2010 - 07:02 AM

One thing I noticed was that first time I checked with dipstick, level was near top. But if I cleaned dipstick and rechecked, it would be lower - maybe 75%. I did this several times. Always first measurement was higher. Can't understand why....

Did you use the proper method of dip checking as instructed in the owner's manual, do you do the quick stick it in, pull it out method in unheated oil? The results will be quite diferent and the reason for doing it the proper way will be obvious.

#10 Mike T

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 11:39 AM

The reason for this is that the crankshaft counterweights are splashing vigourously in the oil when the engine is running, which will push oil up the dipstick a ways.When checking oil, NEVER use the newly withdrawn dipstick as representing the actual oil level. Put it in after wiping it off, wait 1 minute then withdraw it, to get a proper reading.

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#11 Graham

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 01:40 PM

The reason for this is that the crankshaft counterweights are splashing vigourously in the oil when the engine is running, which will push oil up the dipstick a ways. When checking oil, NEVER use the newly withdrawn dipstick as representing the actual oil level. Put it in after wiping it off, wait 1 minute then withdraw it, to get a proper reading.

I did it the proper way. Except because I had just changed oil, only engine was warm, not oil. I was checking that I had put in the correct amount. To be honest, I had not read the manual. But I just did, and that is how I would check oil level on any car. What I was saying, is that I get a high reading first time I check by inserting cleaned dipstick. Then if I repeat the clean and insert, subsequent readings are all lower. Can only think that first time some oil on side of tube gets deposited on stick first time it is inserted. Either way, I am either 90% full or 75% full! But will check it again (haven't driven car since oil was changed). BTW - Just got a flyer from West Marine - They have their vacuum oil extractors on sale for $59.95. 6.5L, I believe. I have a larger unit of similar design made by Mity-Vac. It sucks and discharges. Great unit - I have had it for quite a while and use it on all cars except my SL (which has to be drained). On most MBs, the oil can be sucked up the diptube - that is how many shops do it. I imagine that is how MB intended cdi engine to be done too, although it seems a little extra oil can be sucked out by inserting tube all the way.

Edited by Graham, 10 September 2010 - 01:47 PM.

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 02:00 PM

My rain check of Mobil 1 0W40 came in at under $5/L (I think they made a mistake!). ;)

Gotta luv those kinds of mistakes :D :D

Edited by Leadwing, 10 September 2010 - 02:00 PM.

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'05 smart pulse "Bruised" (bought used with 94,000kms on it, Sept. 23/09)

'06 smart Passion Cab. "Silverwing" (bought 'gently used' with 4,800 kms on it, Nov. 22/10)

'95 Jeep "winter-beater" (bought used in 1996 with 6,000 kms on it) Sold... June 30/12 with 297,900 kms on it.

'96 Honda Civic, "Dimples", that serves as my wife's bus

'89 Civic "Old Faithful" (bought new in the fall of 1988) Still waiting for the first light bulb to blow. A/C has never been serviced and still chills the cabin area in less than 3 minutes.

and a gaggle of motorcycles including the 35th GoldWing ever made with over 591,000 miles on it. "yeehawww"
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#13 Mike T

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 03:33 PM

The oil filter filled up? That would take about a quarter litre.....

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