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@  turbomar : (22 November 2014 - 06:33 PM) Thanks for the tip lads! Going to Princess tomorrow
@  marchanna : (22 November 2014 - 05:57 PM) Princess Auto is the best! I live less than a Km from there.
@  Bessy : (22 November 2014 - 05:53 PM) Turbomar, Princess Auto has the socket for about $3. I've done 20 or so pairs of reluctors and haven't broken a socket yet.
@  dmoonen : (22 November 2014 - 09:48 AM) Yes it is Turbomar.
@  turbomar : (22 November 2014 - 07:38 AM) Is the socket size for the drive axle bolt to hub on the 450, 12 point 21mm?
@  dmoonen : (21 November 2014 - 03:41 PM) I think glow plug gets triggered by the coolant sensor
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 12:11 PM) I couldn't tell you for sure.
@  kdubya : (21 November 2014 - 11:39 AM) i played around a bunch, entered everything i could. i didn't see it anywhere. Is it something we know the Star can do?
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 09:52 AM) There are a whole lot of read outs in there, so you may have to dig around a bit, but that's where I would think they'd be.
@  kdubya : (21 November 2014 - 09:45 AM) k ill check. i want to make sure they are working. just a read out of temp
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 09:21 AM) probably under the "Engine" section
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 09:20 AM) Read out is likely under Systems>N3/9 (EDG control unit) > Actual Value Indicator, somewhere.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 09:18 AM) As in, configurable, or just a read out?
@  kdubya : (21 November 2014 - 08:58 AM) Anyone know where to find cylinder temp (glow plug function) on the Star??
@  FlossyTheSmart : (19 November 2014 - 11:38 AM) classic
@  Mike T : (19 November 2014 - 11:38 AM) Hodor
@  evotell : (19 November 2014 - 11:35 AM) Saying your own name, I don't get it?
@  dmoonen : (19 November 2014 - 10:52 AM) Saying your own name evotell :P
@  evotell : (19 November 2014 - 10:49 AM) evotell
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 06:29 PM) Well, we repaired the wires and its driving fine now... I guess I'll have to wait for another slushy day to be sure. Thanks for all the help guys!
@  Mike T : (18 November 2014 - 05:24 PM) This happened to our dearly departed green car too and the solution was that simple.
@  SkydiverChris : (18 November 2014 - 03:32 PM) Glad to hear that you may have found the cause Kurt! Keep us posted! It's almost never that simple.
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 12:00 PM) cost me close to $300 to tow from the Canadian border post at Hemingford to my driveway (80 km), and my car was up on blocks for two weeks while I tracked down and resolved the issues.
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 11:58 AM) jurist? During
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 11:58 AM) Yep, mine started acting up jurist a January thaw on a long steady drive through the country, then the car refused to move on a slushy day on a long steady drive on the same roads a week later. The slushy brine is both conductive and tenacious.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (18 November 2014 - 11:40 AM) That's probably it.
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 11:21 AM) So my friend with soldering skills is going to help me after work... I'm confident this will solve the problem. First slushy day we have so it must have splashed up there and shorted out.
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 10:25 AM) knock on wood, no recurrence after two winters and three summers.
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 10:25 AM) then wraped all in Tesa cloth harness tape ($20 a roll at MB, about the same off ebay)
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 10:24 AM) Yeah, mine was the same. I repaired the wires and coated the whole thing in Liquid Electrical Tape ($9 at CT)
@  stickman007 : (18 November 2014 - 10:20 AM) There's probably corrosion inside the sheath due to moisture getting in
@  FlossyTheSmart : (18 November 2014 - 07:29 AM) with the wires chafed, they're probably only intermittantly making good contact. Wrapping in electrical tape probably won't be able to keep the connection good.
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 07:26 AM) What if I wrap the chafed wires in electrical tape and try driving around?
@  FlossyTheSmart : (18 November 2014 - 07:21 AM) hopefully it's as simple as that!
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 07:11 AM) I immediately found 2 chafed wires at the connection to the clutch actuator!
@  dmoonen : (18 November 2014 - 05:49 AM) Majority of the problems are in the engine harness area right at the IC scoop. Removing the IC would give you more wiggle room and less curse words
@  dmoonen : (18 November 2014 - 05:47 AM) SAM to rear ecu travels under the carpet and right into the firewall behind the seats.
@  dmoonen : (18 November 2014 - 05:46 AM) Harness to two sections: 1:Rear ECU TO engine sensors and components. 2: Sam:Rear ECU.
@  dmoonen : (18 November 2014 - 05:44 AM) No you dont need to kurt, mainly around the intercooler scoop area and back youll be
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 04:27 AM) Do I have to remove any of the under panels to get to the harness?
@  KurtMan : (17 November 2014 - 04:33 PM) Well maybe if I need a star machine I'll send you a message Max!
@  FlossyTheSmart : (17 November 2014 - 04:20 PM) I think just me, Chris, and Troy have star machines in the Ottawa area.
@  KurtMan : (17 November 2014 - 04:03 PM) Any help would be appreciated!
@  SkydiverChris : (17 November 2014 - 03:58 PM) NOt sure if anyone out your way has a Star, but there are a couple people around Ottawa that do. If you're stuck, they may be able to help
@  KurtMan : (17 November 2014 - 03:56 PM) Thanks I appreciate it!
@  SkydiverChris : (17 November 2014 - 03:55 PM) Sorry man, if you're still stuck on the weekend, I might be convinced to make a trip out that way (unless someone else gets there before I do), but there's a tonne of stuff to try, and the Star may or may not give you something to go on.
@  KurtMan : (17 November 2014 - 03:49 PM) Ya I feel ya... I guess I'll check the fork and harness tomorrow and go from there. Wish me luck!
@  SkydiverChris : (17 November 2014 - 03:46 PM) Ewww...that's one hell of a trip. haha
@  KurtMan : (17 November 2014 - 03:42 PM) Innes/Tenth line exactly
@  SkydiverChris : (17 November 2014 - 03:42 PM) If it was summer, I skydive in Gatineau and am out that way almost every weekend. Unfortunately, we don't jump in winter much.

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#1 1960NSU

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 11:26 PM

Hi GUys: I have searched all over and to no avail I can't find any info on spare keys for the Smart. Mine only came with one key, and was hoping to get another one just incase we misplace the origional. I have somewhat gathered you have to get a new one from MB, am I going to have to take out a mortgage to get a new one?I seen some on the Smart-parts in the UK, the fob and key bit seperate but will they work or not?Wendy

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 01:01 PM

The fob will work (although it might need a battery), but MB needs to have it and your car for a while to program it to your car's specific security system..Someone else can probably help you with the cost of this and getting a new key cut. Having a spare is a good idea regardless, so if I were you, I would go ahead and get one.Ron :bike:

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#3 1960NSU

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 02:45 PM

So that may not work, as the ignition won't be in the smart car :o It will be in our resto NSU. I wonder how that would look, take the NSU with all the workings of a Smart in MB and ask them to code the key :lol: They wouldn't know where to start. Other question can the imobilizer be disarmed in any way? So a person could just use the metal part of the key and not the locking mechanism fob thing? Because I am not going to be using the power lock mechanism in the resto car. Hmmm what to doWendy

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 04:20 PM

The immobilizer resides deep in the "operating system" of the car. Probably in the ECU? I don't think there is any way to disable it. As you probably know, it self-immobilizes after about 5 minutes of off time (doesn't lock the doors, just won't start.)Do you know of Fast Eddy and Flying Tiger? He won't blink at the heart of a smart transplanted into a NSU. Bit of a drive to Richmond, though.

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 08:50 PM

Module for the disabler is by the gear shift in the console - it sends a signal to the SAM telling it to start the car - so yeah you might be able to fool it - but if you want to retain it you can get extra key fobs - they are expensive and do require a star machine and access to Mercedes to do - so not sure Fast Eddy could do that or not - If you are stuck for a dealer willing to help Three Point Motors here in Victoria has gone above and beyond with some funky stuff for customers at times.Cheers,Cameron
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#6 1960NSU

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 01:53 PM

Thanks guys for the info, the transplant should start in May, and I am hoping the key isn't going to get misplaced while the transission takes place. I think I may make a key chain for it out of something large and visible, so they can't lose it. :lol: I will contact Fast Eddy and see of he could work on it. Once the car is done, should be no problem to take it to Richmond, It will still be a Smart but in disguise. And I am sure he would like to see it.Wendy

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 06:57 AM

Sounds like you've got a work-around figured out.I'm not mechanically inclined, so I ordered a spare key from MB (Star Motors in Ottawa). It takes about 10 days for them to get the fob from their supplier. Then I had to bring the car and my existing key into the dealership for reprogramming. Although I had an appointment, it took 6 hours for the programming codes to arrive from some mysterious online source. (Is there an emoticon for "skepticism"?? LOL)After about 4 hours, I was given a loaner car. The financial cost was about $270.00 (parts and labour), and a long boring wait in the Customer Holding Tank.
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