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@  marchanna : (28 July 2015 - 11:51 AM) Yup. Sometimes the simplest is the best.
@  Mike T : (28 July 2015 - 11:07 AM) Best idea yet!
@  marchanna : (28 July 2015 - 08:39 AM) It fits nicely in the back of the Benz if I put the seats down. I just thought it would be novel to put it on the back of the Smart.
@  Francesco : (27 July 2015 - 08:10 PM) Or wheelie bars
@  Mike T : (27 July 2015 - 08:07 PM) Preferably, use a larger vehicle.
@  Francesco : (27 July 2015 - 08:05 PM) I would think a trailer is your only option. The physics is just wrong in a couple of dimensions to be hanging 300 lbs behind the rear wheels
@  marchanna : (27 July 2015 - 07:27 PM) Check it out: can-drift.com
@  marchanna : (27 July 2015 - 07:21 PM) It's an electric drift trike. I wanted to see if I could fab a vertical rack on the back of the Smart. The trike weighs about 200lbs - I could probably build an aluminum rack as light as 50lbs - but that still the exceeds the tongue weight of the hitches, thought maybe the towing bolt holes could hold a little more weight.
@  Francesco : (27 July 2015 - 04:50 PM) even the trunk weight is recommended to be no more than 50 kg...
@  Francesco : (27 July 2015 - 04:49 PM) Wow, I have no idea what you're attempting but that sounds like too much weight for the rear of the smart altogether, not just for the two bolts.
@  marchanna : (27 July 2015 - 08:01 AM) I want to hold about 300lbs across of them.
@  marchanna : (27 July 2015 - 07:59 AM) Yes
@  Francesco : (27 July 2015 - 07:43 AM) Vertical?
@  marchanna : (27 July 2015 - 06:32 AM) Anyone know how much load the towing eye bolt hold in the rear bumper of a 451 can carry?
@  NelsonSmart : (19 July 2015 - 11:59 AM) The ECU computer will have to be set with Star or Equiv to get light off.
@  Surturiel : (19 July 2015 - 10:10 AM) all, and all, the only damage was sustained by the tire (that was old already)(aside, of course, from the airbag...)
@  Surturiel : (19 July 2015 - 10:09 AM) yep, talk about overreaction. i hit the curb, the airbag blows up on my ear, and the car shuts down...
@  dmoonen : (19 July 2015 - 06:58 AM) Lol air bag went off? That's a bit drastic. The car shuts down in a case of an accident so cycling the key makes sense.
@  Surturiel : (18 July 2015 - 09:43 PM) (with the airbag...)
@  Surturiel : (18 July 2015 - 09:43 PM) anyone have by any chance an used passenger seat for a 450 fortwo, passion? (dark gray)
@  Surturiel : (18 July 2015 - 08:08 PM) turns out that you have to turn everything ( including the hazards) off to get the car to work again...)
@  Surturiel : (18 July 2015 - 08:07 PM) (I mean, the car just DIED. I was there, stunned, trying to figure out why I couldn't get it running)
@  Surturiel : (18 July 2015 - 08:05 PM) (that thing surely is loud, got me half deaf for a while. Also, the whole smart crash routine got me REALLY startled)
@  Surturiel : (18 July 2015 - 08:02 PM) but do I need to do anything aside from replacing the airbag to get the light off?
@  Surturiel : (18 July 2015 - 08:01 PM) springs and everything
@  Surturiel : (18 July 2015 - 08:01 PM) will service the suspension soon
@  Mike T : (18 July 2015 - 07:17 PM) check the toe setting
@  Surturiel : (18 July 2015 - 04:41 PM) (the front wheel and suspension are fine, the tire needed to be replaced)
@  Surturiel : (18 July 2015 - 04:40 PM) so, aside from needing to replace the airbag itself, do I need to do anything special to get the light off? (time to find a used passenger grey 450 seat)
@  Surturiel : (18 July 2015 - 04:38 PM) (the seat one)
@  Surturiel : (18 July 2015 - 04:38 PM) but my smart, being the overprotective nanny that it is, decided that my integrity was at risk and BLEW UP THE SIDE AIRBAG !
@  Surturiel : (18 July 2015 - 04:37 PM) i hit a curb (because I'm a blind dumbass that misjudged the curb height) 

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#1 1960NSU

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 11:26 PM

Hi GUys: I have searched all over and to no avail I can't find any info on spare keys for the Smart. Mine only came with one key, and was hoping to get another one just incase we misplace the origional. I have somewhat gathered you have to get a new one from MB, am I going to have to take out a mortgage to get a new one?I seen some on the Smart-parts in the UK, the fob and key bit seperate but will they work or not?Wendy

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 01:01 PM

The fob will work (although it might need a battery), but MB needs to have it and your car for a while to program it to your car's specific security system..Someone else can probably help you with the cost of this and getting a new key cut. Having a spare is a good idea regardless, so if I were you, I would go ahead and get one.Ron :bike:

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#3 1960NSU

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 02:45 PM

So that may not work, as the ignition won't be in the smart car :o It will be in our resto NSU. I wonder how that would look, take the NSU with all the workings of a Smart in MB and ask them to code the key :lol: They wouldn't know where to start. Other question can the imobilizer be disarmed in any way? So a person could just use the metal part of the key and not the locking mechanism fob thing? Because I am not going to be using the power lock mechanism in the resto car. Hmmm what to doWendy

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 04:20 PM

The immobilizer resides deep in the "operating system" of the car. Probably in the ECU? I don't think there is any way to disable it. As you probably know, it self-immobilizes after about 5 minutes of off time (doesn't lock the doors, just won't start.)Do you know of Fast Eddy and Flying Tiger? He won't blink at the heart of a smart transplanted into a NSU. Bit of a drive to Richmond, though.

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 08:50 PM

Module for the disabler is by the gear shift in the console - it sends a signal to the SAM telling it to start the car - so yeah you might be able to fool it - but if you want to retain it you can get extra key fobs - they are expensive and do require a star machine and access to Mercedes to do - so not sure Fast Eddy could do that or not - If you are stuck for a dealer willing to help Three Point Motors here in Victoria has gone above and beyond with some funky stuff for customers at times.Cheers,Cameron
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#6 1960NSU

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 01:53 PM

Thanks guys for the info, the transplant should start in May, and I am hoping the key isn't going to get misplaced while the transission takes place. I think I may make a key chain for it out of something large and visible, so they can't lose it. :lol: I will contact Fast Eddy and see of he could work on it. Once the car is done, should be no problem to take it to Richmond, It will still be a Smart but in disguise. And I am sure he would like to see it.Wendy

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 06:57 AM

Sounds like you've got a work-around figured out.I'm not mechanically inclined, so I ordered a spare key from MB (Star Motors in Ottawa). It takes about 10 days for them to get the fob from their supplier. Then I had to bring the car and my existing key into the dealership for reprogramming. Although I had an appointment, it took 6 hours for the programming codes to arrive from some mysterious online source. (Is there an emoticon for "skepticism"?? LOL)After about 4 hours, I was given a loaner car. The financial cost was about $270.00 (parts and labour), and a long boring wait in the Customer Holding Tank.
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