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@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:41 AM) and what about the trilines?
@  dmoonen : (05 July 2015 - 06:48 AM) I had 17" on the rears. bra is rims are soft as butter. Had to get mine straighten out twice in a three year span
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 02:26 AM) wider 15" then?
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 02:25 AM) So, no 16" wheels on a 450?
@  Mike T : (04 July 2015 - 10:35 PM) ...to avoid bent rims
@  Mike T : (04 July 2015 - 10:11 PM) 15" BRABUS wheels are fine. The 16s need more tire than the 450 can handle.
@  Surturiel : (04 July 2015 - 08:53 PM) on a 450
@  Surturiel : (04 July 2015 - 08:52 PM) smartmadness has 3x112 to 5x112 adapters, but they are 19mm thick. and I read that this is not enough for the rear wheels using OEM mercedes wheels
@  Surturiel : (04 July 2015 - 08:49 PM) So, no Brabus?
@  Mike T : (04 July 2015 - 08:47 PM) Used 16s out of Europe would be fraction of 3 grand. But the 16 inch BRABUS wheels are like bubble gum. Fairly warned be thee says I
@  Surturiel : (04 July 2015 - 08:47 PM) nope. there's no 6x112 pattern.
@  NelsonSmart : (04 July 2015 - 10:03 AM) There must be some 16"rims with 6 holes that could have the same offset that may work, that will take research/investigation
@  Surturiel : (04 July 2015 - 09:12 AM) any options on 16" wheels that don't end up costing almost 3k, then?
@  cadillacman : (04 July 2015 - 04:27 AM) the adaptors are going to act as a spacer kit, which will increase the offset, which will put a bit more stress on the bearings, we have delicate bearings
@  SmartED : (04 July 2015 - 04:15 AM) Going to the five lug application does improve your options in terms of wheel choices because there is a lot more out there. But, is it worth it? I don't know and I'm sure others more informed will join in.
@  Surturiel : (03 July 2015 - 04:01 PM) Question ( as usual) I'm investigating the whole 3 to 5 lug adapters for wheels. worth the time/investiment?
@  Surturiel : (03 July 2015 - 04:00 PM) hi, everyone
@  Mike T : (01 July 2015 - 06:36 PM) LOL
@  Mike T : (01 July 2015 - 06:36 PM) oops make that fogs
@  Mike T : (01 July 2015 - 06:36 PM) It's totally weird and you will have to cut the wiring. You are right not to use the OE smart fags, they are utter trash and the reflector melts after ten hours of use.
@  Surturiel : (01 July 2015 - 06:07 PM) question: (as usual) what kind of connector does the 450 fog light uses? I want to put an aftermarket fog light and don't want to cut the original wiring...
@  Mike T : (01 July 2015 - 10:13 AM) Good Canada Day eh?
@  Surturiel : (01 July 2015 - 10:08 AM) happy canada day!
@  SmartED : (01 July 2015 - 01:34 AM) Happy Canada Day everyone
@  Surturiel : (30 June 2015 - 09:14 PM) opinion: are those 3 to 5 stud adapters safe? I want a set of 16", but they're both hard to find and expensive...
@  Mike T : (30 June 2015 - 08:39 PM) *Jodhpur, damn fat fingers
@  Mike T : (30 June 2015 - 08:38 PM) *bolt
@  Mike T : (30 June 2015 - 08:38 PM) Take 'em off and three are three bold holes plus a large round one. Best to think of them as Jodphurs
@  Surturiel : (30 June 2015 - 07:57 PM) question: is there a way to remove those hip inserts?
@  FlossyTheSmart : (30 June 2015 - 05:14 AM) And that's without mentioning that compared to many cars, there were very few 450s made, and it's now 8 years out of production
@  FlossyTheSmart : (30 June 2015 - 05:12 AM) Well, I think you'll find it difficult to find ANY seat covers for a 450. There aren't a lot of offerings around
@  Surturiel : (29 June 2015 - 09:25 PM) on this topic, why is SO DAMN HARD to find leather seat covers for 450?
@  Surturiel : (29 June 2015 - 09:24 PM) sorry!
@  Mike T : (29 June 2015 - 09:19 PM) nor is it a leather seat!
@  Surturiel : (29 June 2015 - 07:52 PM) leather seat
@  Mike T : (29 June 2015 - 02:00 PM) This is not a search box!
@  mowser : (29 June 2015 - 11:42 AM) resetting the service reminder
@  mowser : (29 June 2015 - 09:53 AM) 299891
@  LeoBarbosa : (22 June 2015 - 06:03 PM) Just a feedback, the rear struts were really easy to do. Thanks for the tips. Payed $120 for both sides, at the dealership, in Calgary, AB.

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Smart Fortwo Electric Drive Debuts Prior to 2011 Frankfurt Auto Show


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#1 quirky1

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 01:34 AM

Smart Fortwo Electric Drive Debuts Prior to 2011 Frankfurt Auto Show

By Andreas Stahl, Correspondent | Published Aug 16, 2011

Just the Facts:

    [*]The latest Smart Fortwo Electric Drive features a new electric motor drive developed by Mercedes-Benz and Bosch.
    [*]The new motor delivers a 33-horsepower increase over the previous model
    [*]A new battery increases range to 87 miles, a 5-mile increase over the previous model
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    STUTTGART, Germany Mercedes-Benz's city car division Smart has revealed a reworked version of the Fortwo Electric Drive. The new two-seat coupe, which receives an upgraded driveline for added acceleration and greater range, is planned to make its public debut alongside a concept for a new four-door Smart model at next month's 2011 Frankfurt Auto Show prior to going on sale in up to 30 markets, including North America, during the second quarter of 2012.

    Central among the changes made to the third iteration of the Fortwo Electric Drive is the adoption of a new electric motor developed in a joint venture between Mercedes-Benz and Bosch.

    Mounted at the rear and providing drive to the rear wheels, the brushless unit boasts a 33-horsepower and 7 pound-feet increase over the earlier Fortwo Electric Drive's motor at 73 hp and 96 lb-ft, respectively.

    The added reserves cut the 0-37 mph (0-60 km/h) time by 1.5 seconds to 5.0 seconds. Top speed also increases from 62 mph (100 km/h) to 75 mph (120 km/h).

    Electric energy for the motor is supplied by a new lithium-ion battery pack. Produced by Deutsche ACCUmotive, it replaces the Telsa-supplied unit used by the second iteration of the Fortwo Electric Drive, production of which has now ceased after a run of more than 2,000 cars.

    The capacity of the battery has increased from 16.5 kW/h to 17.7 kW/h in a move that provides the new Fortwo Electric Drive with a 5-mile increase in range over the older model at a claimed 87 miles. Smart claims a recharge time of eight hours on a 220-volt European socket, or just under an hour using the car's onboard high-ampere charger.

    Smart has confirmed that production of the latest Fortwo Electric Drive is planned to be increased to over 10,000 units. The earlier model's production was capped at just 2,000 units.

    As well as revealing the new Fortwo Electric Drive, Smart has also announced it will diversify away from its usual automotive activities with the addition of a so-called eBike to its lineup as part of a broader personal mobility program aimed at taking the Mercedes-Benz offshoot back to its roots.

    The new electric bicycle, previewed at last year's Paris auto show, uses a 250-watt hub motor mounted at the rear to provide assistance to the rider.

    The electric assistance can be altered in four steps using a handlebar-mounted mechanism. Electric energy for the motor is provided by a 0.4 kW/h lithium-ion battery that sits low down within the new bicycle's frame.

    Inside Line says: Nothing like more power and range to make an electric car seem a little more worthwhile.

#2 Mike T

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 06:19 AM

8 km more range? Ouch! Still under 150 km. The performance sounds better though.

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#3 1983JZR3W

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 09:58 AM

From pics on Smart Madness's site, it looks like the tridion is painted unlike the decal on the previous model.




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