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@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 08:45 PM) 185/50 and 205/50 r16"
@  Mike T : (05 July 2015 - 07:45 PM) You can't use 185/50 and 205/50, the ESP will freak out and the car will be undriveable. I find that 175/55-15 front and 195/50-15 rear to be the best compromise between ride and handling.
@  marchanna : (05 July 2015 - 06:31 PM) LED headlights installed
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 05:59 PM) right now I have the Stylines with 145/55 front and 175/50 rear. I find the car skitterish on the highway and the ride is kinda harsh. I was considering 16"s with 185/50 front and 205/50 back, on the Trilines. possible? Would that improve both the comfort and stability?
@  Mike T : (05 July 2015 - 04:46 PM) If you are concerned about rim damage due to rough roads, don't even consider 16s.
@  Francesco : (05 July 2015 - 04:18 PM) I think the Monoblock VI is soft, not sure if other OE smart/BRABUS rims are. Afaik the smart and BRABUS rims are all OEMd by Ronal or ATS.
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:41 AM) and what about the trilines?
@  dmoonen : (05 July 2015 - 06:48 AM) I had 17" on the rears. bra is rims are soft as butter. Had to get mine straighten out twice in a three year span
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 02:26 AM) wider 15" then?
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 02:25 AM) So, no 16" wheels on a 450?
@  Mike T : (04 July 2015 - 10:35 PM) ...to avoid bent rims
@  Mike T : (04 July 2015 - 10:11 PM) 15" BRABUS wheels are fine. The 16s need more tire than the 450 can handle.
@  Surturiel : (04 July 2015 - 08:53 PM) on a 450
@  Surturiel : (04 July 2015 - 08:52 PM) smartmadness has 3x112 to 5x112 adapters, but they are 19mm thick. and I read that this is not enough for the rear wheels using OEM mercedes wheels
@  Surturiel : (04 July 2015 - 08:49 PM) So, no Brabus?
@  Mike T : (04 July 2015 - 08:47 PM) Used 16s out of Europe would be fraction of 3 grand. But the 16 inch BRABUS wheels are like bubble gum. Fairly warned be thee says I
@  Surturiel : (04 July 2015 - 08:47 PM) nope. there's no 6x112 pattern.
@  NelsonSmart : (04 July 2015 - 10:03 AM) There must be some 16"rims with 6 holes that could have the same offset that may work, that will take research/investigation
@  Surturiel : (04 July 2015 - 09:12 AM) any options on 16" wheels that don't end up costing almost 3k, then?
@  cadillacman : (04 July 2015 - 04:27 AM) the adaptors are going to act as a spacer kit, which will increase the offset, which will put a bit more stress on the bearings, we have delicate bearings
@  SmartED : (04 July 2015 - 04:15 AM) Going to the five lug application does improve your options in terms of wheel choices because there is a lot more out there. But, is it worth it? I don't know and I'm sure others more informed will join in.
@  Surturiel : (03 July 2015 - 04:01 PM) Question ( as usual) I'm investigating the whole 3 to 5 lug adapters for wheels. worth the time/investiment?
@  Surturiel : (03 July 2015 - 04:00 PM) hi, everyone
@  Mike T : (01 July 2015 - 06:36 PM) LOL
@  Mike T : (01 July 2015 - 06:36 PM) oops make that fogs
@  Mike T : (01 July 2015 - 06:36 PM) It's totally weird and you will have to cut the wiring. You are right not to use the OE smart fags, they are utter trash and the reflector melts after ten hours of use.
@  Surturiel : (01 July 2015 - 06:07 PM) question: (as usual) what kind of connector does the 450 fog light uses? I want to put an aftermarket fog light and don't want to cut the original wiring...
@  Mike T : (01 July 2015 - 10:13 AM) Good Canada Day eh?
@  Surturiel : (01 July 2015 - 10:08 AM) happy canada day!
@  SmartED : (01 July 2015 - 01:34 AM) Happy Canada Day everyone
@  Surturiel : (30 June 2015 - 09:14 PM) opinion: are those 3 to 5 stud adapters safe? I want a set of 16", but they're both hard to find and expensive...
@  Mike T : (30 June 2015 - 08:39 PM) *Jodhpur, damn fat fingers
@  Mike T : (30 June 2015 - 08:38 PM) *bolt
@  Mike T : (30 June 2015 - 08:38 PM) Take 'em off and three are three bold holes plus a large round one. Best to think of them as Jodphurs
@  Surturiel : (30 June 2015 - 07:57 PM) question: is there a way to remove those hip inserts?
@  FlossyTheSmart : (30 June 2015 - 05:14 AM) And that's without mentioning that compared to many cars, there were very few 450s made, and it's now 8 years out of production
@  FlossyTheSmart : (30 June 2015 - 05:12 AM) Well, I think you'll find it difficult to find ANY seat covers for a 450. There aren't a lot of offerings around
@  Surturiel : (29 June 2015 - 09:25 PM) on this topic, why is SO DAMN HARD to find leather seat covers for 450?
@  Surturiel : (29 June 2015 - 09:24 PM) sorry!
@  Mike T : (29 June 2015 - 09:19 PM) nor is it a leather seat!
@  Surturiel : (29 June 2015 - 07:52 PM) leather seat
@  Mike T : (29 June 2015 - 02:00 PM) This is not a search box!
@  mowser : (29 June 2015 - 11:42 AM) resetting the service reminder
@  mowser : (29 June 2015 - 09:53 AM) 299891
@  LeoBarbosa : (22 June 2015 - 06:03 PM) Just a feedback, the rear struts were really easy to do. Thanks for the tips. Payed $120 for both sides, at the dealership, in Calgary, AB.

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#1 sujim

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 05:04 PM

I was just wondering what kind of cost would be associated with recharging these little beauties. My hydro at this point is around $300 a month and I live about an hour and a half from the larger cities. Hydro keeps saying that we have to conserve and every time we get our hydro bill down a bit they raise the cost of hydro for one BS excuse or another.

#2 Huronlad

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 06:38 PM

If you are asking about the ED about $2 for a full charge for about 135 km of range. A/C uses up about 5% of the available charge, heat much more.

"Kalliste" 2005 Bay Grey Pure, tach/clock pods, panoramic roof, a/c, soft touch, ignition free windows, vertical wipers, Euro turn signals, LED fog lights, LED turn signal side marker lights, Scanguage II, LED interior light, LED license plate lights, LED reverse lights, LED high brake light, UWC wheel covers, tinted windows, Wet Okole seat covers with carbon fibre heaters, under seat drawer, EBC brakes and rotors, Eibach and Boge suspension, Stebel air horn.
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#3 smartzuuk

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 10:41 AM

I've tried to find out the kWh required to bring a battery from 80% drain to full recharge - no luck thus far. I think $2.00 is a bit light - that would mean (in BC at 9 cents kWh) about 22 kWh, or an old 100 watt bulb running for 220 hours...What we really need is the kWh, then you can figure out the cost. May depend on time of day in some regions.Like all driving, you can make this number smaller by driving conservatively. All the same principles apply - your ability to anticipate traffic flow, your speed, losing weight in the city, tire pressure..... it will all make a difference.

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#4 Huronlad

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 04:34 PM

The production version for 2013 has a capacity of 17.6 kW.

"Kalliste" 2005 Bay Grey Pure, tach/clock pods, panoramic roof, a/c, soft touch, ignition free windows, vertical wipers, Euro turn signals, LED fog lights, LED turn signal side marker lights, Scanguage II, LED interior light, LED license plate lights, LED reverse lights, LED high brake light, UWC wheel covers, tinted windows, Wet Okole seat covers with carbon fibre heaters, under seat drawer, EBC brakes and rotors, Eibach and Boge suspension, Stebel air horn.
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"Labeeba" 2011 metallic silver Pure, tach/clock pods, A/C, arm rest, Design 1 alloy wheels, fog lights, all panels colour matched, heated seats, storage bin, oem storage cover, Area451 cruise control, Ultra Gauge, Team Dynamic Smartie 16" x 7.5" wheels, Yokohama S-Drive 215/40R16 tires, resonator box deleted.
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#5 smartzuuk

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 08:15 PM

17.6 kWh? Wow.... Well, then I guess the car will cost well under $2.00 to recharge in BC. Especially if you can get this within your cheaper rate of under 7 cents/kWh (limited to 1450 kWh per two month period per account - if you use more than this, it becomes closer to 9 cents). Rates outside of BC can be much higher, so perhaps that is where the $3.50 came from that the guys on the smart electric drive tour are quoting. Have a look at the US EPA rating sheet here: http://en.wikipedia...._electric_drive I like how kWh/100 km (or kWh per 100 miles) is used in the ratings. I would think this is the standard, but I've never been up on electric vehicle geekery... The EPA lists the smart EV as 87 mpg (US) equivalent. And the car is way heavier. Here's a bit of a primer I found on decoding the ratings for electrics: http://www.edmunds.c...ic-car-mpg.html

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