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@  smart65 : (21 May 2015 - 11:57 AM) Thanks
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 May 2015 - 06:48 AM) You can now also click on the number of comments and it will take you to the shop page with the comments on it
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 May 2015 - 06:36 AM) If you click on the shop name, it will take you to a page just for that shop, with the full details. I'll make the comment count a link to the page as well.
@  smart65 : (21 May 2015 - 06:28 AM) How can comments be accessed in Service Options?
@  Mike T : (20 May 2015 - 11:39 AM) PM sent of manual excerpt
@  Mike T : (20 May 2015 - 11:37 AM) It's in the owners manual all right
@  Huronlad : (20 May 2015 - 08:47 AM) There are numerous threads about the "three bars of death", make use of the forum search feature and do some reading.
@  1EGRBVR : (20 May 2015 - 06:39 AM) Thanks. I see nothing in the owners manual.
@  Mike T : (20 May 2015 - 06:31 AM) *Check
@  Mike T : (20 May 2015 - 06:31 AM) Gheck your owners manual, it is a gearbox fault.
@  1EGRBVR : (20 May 2015 - 06:07 AM) On the instrument cluster where the LED shows the gear you are in or A for Automatic, I am showing 3 vertical lines instead going across.  Has anyone else encountered this?   This happened after I changed the rear signal light.
@  Mike T : (19 May 2015 - 08:13 PM) Le Club 404 and some private sector guys in Europe are picking up on this big-time.
@  marchanna : (19 May 2015 - 04:38 PM) That makes good sense. Do you hope to get service parts made or custom built?
@  Mike T : (19 May 2015 - 03:07 PM) Strength in numbers....parts reproductions are more likely if we know there are 2000 or more coupes and cabriolets left...plus I have wanted to know this (how many are left) since 1977 when I first wanted to buy one.
@  marchanna : (19 May 2015 - 08:27 AM) Good stuff! Just out of curiosity, is there a practical purpose for the registry or is it just for fun?
@  Mike T : (18 May 2015 - 07:57 PM) Got some new 404s for the Registry, boo yeah!
@  marchanna : (18 May 2015 - 04:04 PM) Sup?
@  marchanna : (15 May 2015 - 04:06 AM) Haha. I just watched that skit last night.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (14 May 2015 - 05:59 AM) It's merely pining for the fjords right now
@  jwight : (14 May 2015 - 01:01 AM) That's too bad - hate to see the Mystery Run die out.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (13 May 2015 - 09:48 AM) I hadn't planned on organizing it this year. Noah had been planning on doing something I think, but he's no longer involved
@  marchanna : (12 May 2015 - 12:50 PM) Nope. It's a mystery.
@  stickman007 : (12 May 2015 - 09:41 AM) Any news on Mystery Run this year?
@  marchanna : (11 May 2015 - 02:07 PM) Nope. I had to tell the dealer I was having problems with it.
@  Francesco : (11 May 2015 - 06:03 AM) With a Star machine? Really? I find even just plugging/unplugging my ScanGauge stores CAN faults that the Star picks up.
@  marchanna : (11 May 2015 - 05:52 AM) On my ML320 I had a bad sensor and it didn't store any codes.
@  Francesco : (10 May 2015 - 03:00 PM) i will investigate the lateral G sensor showing positive lateral acceleration while the car is at rest.
@  Francesco : (10 May 2015 - 02:59 PM) Lights are working, alignment is correct. I'm still cycling through a variety of tire pressure combinations but the effect should still not be this aggressive considering it was flawless on bald rear tires last year. Faulty speed sensor should store a code, none stored.
@  marchanna : (10 May 2015 - 01:50 PM) Check for never tire wear with a depth gage, and tire pressure. Also if you have a bad speed sensor, it can cause an error intermittently. A slight misalignment in the front end can cause this too - i.e. improper toe-in. Other things that can affect it is a short or a ground fault in the brake and turn signal lights.
@  Francesco : (10 May 2015 - 01:18 PM) Wheel speeds are reporting fine, the problem is around bends with specific lateral forces. On one ramp the ESP reacts aggressively on initial turn in, then after the apex I'm able to power out with full pedal.
@  Francesco : (10 May 2015 - 01:16 PM) New last June, and painted with POR-15.
@  David_18 : (10 May 2015 - 11:46 AM) How are your ABS Ring ?
@  Francesco : (10 May 2015 - 07:44 AM) And the same tires last summer with zero problems, only difference this year is new ones in the rear
@  Francesco : (10 May 2015 - 07:43 AM) Yes
@  David_18 : (10 May 2015 - 07:43 AM) have*
@  David_18 : (10 May 2015 - 07:42 AM) You 4 tire with the same size ?
@  Francesco : (10 May 2015 - 07:38 AM) Yokohama S.drive 195/40-16
@  David_18 : (10 May 2015 - 07:13 AM) Brand/model ?
@  David_18 : (10 May 2015 - 07:08 AM) What tire you have ?
@  cadillacman : (10 May 2015 - 04:16 AM) try measuring the 'actual' circumference of all 4 tires, to see how much variance there is
@  Francesco : (09 May 2015 - 10:50 PM) Well I'm scratching my head. Think it might be the G sensor?
@  marchanna : (09 May 2015 - 06:44 PM) like in a PLC
@  marchanna : (09 May 2015 - 06:43 PM) I would say neither. It should have a fixed ladder logic.

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#1 dbrimmer

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 12:09 PM

Hi Guys!I have something weird with my smart passion.. I noticed that the UJ of the steering column was due so I dismantled the subframe and changed it. During the process I lubricated steering rack and replaced the ball joints as well. I installed subframe etc etc and also dashboard and battery as I had to remove them.Got on the driver seat and turned the key to ignition. There was a beep and the display showed a key sign... no start. turned off and on again, and no start. with the third time with both doors closed as initially I had passengers door open it started normaly! already something weird as normally it would start with an open door.More to come...I decided to go for a test ride! steering felt great. No knocking, but after a while the ABS and Traction control sign came on! turned off and on again for a couple of times but without any success.. Warning lights still on.Meanwhile I gathered spread tools in the garage and decided to put it in garage so that tomorrow I could investigate what's wrong. Pull down the handbreak with engine started and now the handbreak light remains on! it remained always on irrelevant if its up or downBy the way I tried the brakes to see if ABS works and nope!! No ABS..What could have gone wrong? Actually I didn't touch any sensors or electrical parts apart from battery! Is there a Reset or something when battery is disconnected and connected again after 4 days?I appreciate the help and comments you'll post..Thanks again,Daniel

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 12:33 PM

Steering wheel angle sensor. The control systems need to know the angle of the steering to know how much difference in wheel speeds to expect. The steering wheel probably got turned a bit with the UJ off, and it's now out of position.Handbrake light is not just the handbrake, any braking system fault will set it off. No specific idea.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 12:39 PM

Hi Daniel, What you are describing here sounds like the immobilizer. Just press the unlock button on the key with the ignition in the off position to reset it.

Got on the driver seat and turned the key to ignition. There was a beep and the display showed a key sign... no start. turned off and on again, and no start. with the third time with both doors closed as initially I had passengers door open it started normaly! already something weird as normally it would start with an open door.

As to your other problem with the ABS it sounds like a classic case of a cracked reluctor ring on one of the rear wheels ( the flat metal disk with the toothed notches behind the brake drum). I am confused as to why it just started when you did the steering repair. You said you removed the dashboard, perhaps you forgot to hook up a connector somewhere? Canman
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#4 dbrimmer

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 01:06 PM

Steering wheel angle sensor. The control systems need to know the angle of the steering to know how much difference in wheel speeds to expect. The steering wheel probably got turned a bit with the UJ off, and it's now out of position. Handbrake light is not just the handbrake, any braking system fault will set it off. No specific idea.

Hi Alex, Well the steering wheel was removed together with the steering column. steering wheel was not disconnected from column so I cannot understand what wheel angle sensor could result with! is there any sensor for the steering wheel? Thanks

#5 dbrimmer

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 01:10 PM

Hi Daniel, What you are describing here sounds like the immobilizer. Just press the unlock button on the key with the ignition in the off position to reset it. As to your other problem with the ABS it sounds like a classic case of a cracked reluctor ring on one of the rear wheels ( the flat metal disk with the toothed notches behind the brake drum). I am confused as to why it just started when you did the steering repair. You said you removed the dashboard, perhaps you forgot to hook up a connector somewhere? Canman

I will give a check from dashboard side. maybe there is something which i have not connected! but yes your right.. its weired how this all happened when I dis-assembled the steering column.. there should be something in common... Thanks mate:)

#6 CANMAN

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 01:18 PM

Daniel,I forgot about the steering wheel angle sensor.Alex is right, you will have to take your car to Mercedes to recalibrate the steering wheel angle sensor with a Star machine.Canman
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#7 tolsen

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 01:25 PM

Evilution has instructions on how to set steering angle sensor to zero. http://www.evilution...ndex.php?id=715

#8 dbrimmer

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 12:51 AM

Thanks a lot for you help guys!! you're great :))




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