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@  dmoonen : (21 November 2014 - 03:41 PM) I think glow plug gets triggered by the coolant sensor
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 12:11 PM) I couldn't tell you for sure.
@  kdubya : (21 November 2014 - 11:39 AM) i played around a bunch, entered everything i could. i didn't see it anywhere. Is it something we know the Star can do?
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 09:52 AM) There are a whole lot of read outs in there, so you may have to dig around a bit, but that's where I would think they'd be.
@  kdubya : (21 November 2014 - 09:45 AM) k ill check. i want to make sure they are working. just a read out of temp
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 09:21 AM) probably under the "Engine" section
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 09:20 AM) Read out is likely under Systems>N3/9 (EDG control unit) > Actual Value Indicator, somewhere.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (21 November 2014 - 09:18 AM) As in, configurable, or just a read out?
@  kdubya : (21 November 2014 - 08:58 AM) Anyone know where to find cylinder temp (glow plug function) on the Star??
@  FlossyTheSmart : (19 November 2014 - 11:38 AM) classic
@  Mike T : (19 November 2014 - 11:38 AM) Hodor
@  evotell : (19 November 2014 - 11:35 AM) Saying your own name, I don't get it?
@  dmoonen : (19 November 2014 - 10:52 AM) Saying your own name evotell :P
@  evotell : (19 November 2014 - 10:49 AM) evotell
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 06:29 PM) Well, we repaired the wires and its driving fine now... I guess I'll have to wait for another slushy day to be sure. Thanks for all the help guys!
@  Mike T : (18 November 2014 - 05:24 PM) This happened to our dearly departed green car too and the solution was that simple.
@  SkydiverChris : (18 November 2014 - 03:32 PM) Glad to hear that you may have found the cause Kurt! Keep us posted! It's almost never that simple.
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 12:00 PM) cost me close to $300 to tow from the Canadian border post at Hemingford to my driveway (80 km), and my car was up on blocks for two weeks while I tracked down and resolved the issues.
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 11:58 AM) jurist? During
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 11:58 AM) Yep, mine started acting up jurist a January thaw on a long steady drive through the country, then the car refused to move on a slushy day on a long steady drive on the same roads a week later. The slushy brine is both conductive and tenacious.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (18 November 2014 - 11:40 AM) That's probably it.
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 11:21 AM) So my friend with soldering skills is going to help me after work... I'm confident this will solve the problem. First slushy day we have so it must have splashed up there and shorted out.
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 10:25 AM) knock on wood, no recurrence after two winters and three summers.
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 10:25 AM) then wraped all in Tesa cloth harness tape ($20 a roll at MB, about the same off ebay)
@  Francesco : (18 November 2014 - 10:24 AM) Yeah, mine was the same. I repaired the wires and coated the whole thing in Liquid Electrical Tape ($9 at CT)
@  stickman007 : (18 November 2014 - 10:20 AM) There's probably corrosion inside the sheath due to moisture getting in
@  FlossyTheSmart : (18 November 2014 - 07:29 AM) with the wires chafed, they're probably only intermittantly making good contact. Wrapping in electrical tape probably won't be able to keep the connection good.
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 07:26 AM) What if I wrap the chafed wires in electrical tape and try driving around?
@  FlossyTheSmart : (18 November 2014 - 07:21 AM) hopefully it's as simple as that!
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 07:11 AM) I immediately found 2 chafed wires at the connection to the clutch actuator!
@  dmoonen : (18 November 2014 - 05:49 AM) Majority of the problems are in the engine harness area right at the IC scoop. Removing the IC would give you more wiggle room and less curse words
@  dmoonen : (18 November 2014 - 05:47 AM) SAM to rear ecu travels under the carpet and right into the firewall behind the seats.
@  dmoonen : (18 November 2014 - 05:46 AM) Harness to two sections: 1:Rear ECU TO engine sensors and components. 2: Sam:Rear ECU.
@  dmoonen : (18 November 2014 - 05:44 AM) No you dont need to kurt, mainly around the intercooler scoop area and back youll be
@  KurtMan : (18 November 2014 - 04:27 AM) Do I have to remove any of the under panels to get to the harness?
@  KurtMan : (17 November 2014 - 04:33 PM) Well maybe if I need a star machine I'll send you a message Max!
@  FlossyTheSmart : (17 November 2014 - 04:20 PM) I think just me, Chris, and Troy have star machines in the Ottawa area.
@  KurtMan : (17 November 2014 - 04:03 PM) Any help would be appreciated!
@  SkydiverChris : (17 November 2014 - 03:58 PM) NOt sure if anyone out your way has a Star, but there are a couple people around Ottawa that do. If you're stuck, they may be able to help
@  KurtMan : (17 November 2014 - 03:56 PM) Thanks I appreciate it!
@  SkydiverChris : (17 November 2014 - 03:55 PM) Sorry man, if you're still stuck on the weekend, I might be convinced to make a trip out that way (unless someone else gets there before I do), but there's a tonne of stuff to try, and the Star may or may not give you something to go on.
@  KurtMan : (17 November 2014 - 03:49 PM) Ya I feel ya... I guess I'll check the fork and harness tomorrow and go from there. Wish me luck!
@  SkydiverChris : (17 November 2014 - 03:46 PM) Ewww...that's one hell of a trip. haha
@  KurtMan : (17 November 2014 - 03:42 PM) Innes/Tenth line exactly
@  SkydiverChris : (17 November 2014 - 03:42 PM) If it was summer, I skydive in Gatineau and am out that way almost every weekend. Unfortunately, we don't jump in winter much.
@  SkydiverChris : (17 November 2014 - 03:40 PM) I'm actually out 15 minutes west of Carleton Place, so it's a bit of a trek. Are you like "Innes/10th Line" east, or like, St Laurent East?
@  SkydiverChris : (17 November 2014 - 03:39 PM) More here too: http://www.fq101.co....the-3-bars.html
@  KurtMan : (17 November 2014 - 03:38 PM) What would it take to get you to venture out of your comfort zone? lol
@  SkydiverChris : (17 November 2014 - 03:38 PM) I work in Bells corners, so I'm there daily. ALso, here's a good start to the "What might it be question" http://www.evilution.co.uk/168
@  SkydiverChris : (17 November 2014 - 03:37 PM) Damn, I was gonna say that I can bring my Star computer and we can check it out, but I haven't been to the east end in years/


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#1 Grumpyb

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 09:52 AM

Hi , Im a UK Smart owner and I have a converted 08 Passion with a 25 cell Lifepo4 pack and HPEV AC30 motor/ Curtis controller.For a living I support UK Ev users and this came my way as a development mule for a UK company that subsequently made a series of converted Citroen C1s.I actually purchased two of these, but one was totalled in a road accident last year. I still have its remains waiting for an appropriate priced 451 non runner to convert. Having caught the Smart bug, I bought a 451 CDI (2010) that was repossed by the finance company. No keys, 44000miles and lots of general wear. My wrecked electric has provided the replacement worn interior. To sort the keys the UK smatrt dealers wanted around 800 to replace the SAM, keys, lots of special costs for computer codes from MB/ Smart and 120 per hour to do the work. So I shopped around and the formal solution is the Smart one, as you have to have one key for the star diagnostics to programme another. However a nice clever Romanian has worked out how to get around it. And apart from a genuine remote a UK locksmith company who has the computer and kit, charged me 65 to programme one key fob. What a result. The car transmits a code, the key fob responds in a certain way, the std system allows codes to be adrift by a few numbers, to allow for you pushing the buttons away from the car and moving on from your code from the car. So they decode what the car is transmitting, using an algorithm they then create a non moving code chip to match. Put that to the key blade (Fortunately I had one of these) and the car now thinks its got an original key, you can then programme a new fob to the SAM. A brilliant piece of deduction. After a couple of uses of the fob the hard coded chip will no longer be any use but now you have a properly coded new fob.WIth the car functional, it then became obvious why the previous owner had defaulted, The turbo had seized and the shaft snapped. So I have a used turbo, but the original oil pipework was seriously clogged , I dont think they had ever serviced the vehicle. SO I dropped the sump and it was really dirty inside. I have fitted a sump plug, and having cleaned the worst of the muck out I ran flushing oil and a new filter through the engine, and replaced with nice fresh oil and filter. The car would not run for more than a few seconds. Diagnosis was a blocked particle filter. So off with the exhaust and out with the Oly acetylene burner, introducing heat and excess oxygen through the exhaust caused it to burn off the internal muck. More to come the EGR mixing system was almost blocked with greasy gunge, this was cleaned out but the car still goes to limp mode after a couple of minutes. Codes being P1408 and P1409. TAke out the vacuum EGR valve itself, it was not opening at all. Swapped for a clean one but I still have P1408. The moral of this, if the deal looks too good to be true, then it probably is too good to be true. I wish I hadnt strayed from my Electric vehicles, but I do need one that will go a few hundred miles.Any thoughts on P1408?Grumpy-b

Edited by Grumpyb, 12 January 2014 - 09:55 AM.

#2 Mike T

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 10:16 AM

Welcome, that's quite the story, I've no idea about the code though.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 10:28 AM

Welcome to the forum! Could you elaborate on the EV mod including pics in the EV section

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 10:52 AM

I didnt put a comment in the EV section as it appeared to be on the Smart /MB v3 rather than conversions.But I will put something on there in the near future.Grumpy-b

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 04:41 PM

Welcome to the club
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