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@  Th3Guardian : (23 July 2016 - 03:55 PM) Wondering if anyone has a performance exhaust for a 451 in Ontario
@  BabyBenz : (23 July 2016 - 03:03 PM) Shuanghuan Noble
@  BabyBenz : (23 July 2016 - 03:02 PM) Came across an interesting article about a Chinese auto manufacturer that cloned the Smart Fortwo - was sued for copyright infringement but the suit failed. 
@  smartzuuk : (21 July 2016 - 11:20 AM) no bites yet on the canada1.... it's still at 98,xxx kms with brand new tires and if someone is interested, let me know.... because if the Volvo goes first, the smart will come off the chopping block
@  Nigel : (19 July 2016 - 03:45 PM) Talk to Glenn smart142. I know he has been in contact with another welder about repairing stock mufflers.
@  Mike T : (19 July 2016 - 01:21 PM) Does Eddy in BC have a decent used one?
@  BabyBenz : (19 July 2016 - 12:44 PM) Trying to decide whether to pull the trigger on expensive muffler replacement at Mercedes or try and have an exhaust shop make a hopefully cheaper custom replacement.
@  Henry : (14 July 2016 - 03:13 PM) Carrot river is in north east Saskatchewan.
@  Henry : (14 July 2016 - 03:12 PM) Ya the cruise helps a lot. i have taken my smart as far east as Carrot river and as far south as palm springs. Quite comfy for the driver but the passenger doesn't get a reclining seat.
@  Mike T : (14 July 2016 - 06:29 AM) Yup. Top tip: Get cruise control, if you don't already have it.
@  Surturiel : (14 July 2016 - 06:09 AM) hmmm... So, just the usual (change oil, check everything), cram the car full of junk and head for 8 days of road?
@  smartzuuk : (14 July 2016 - 04:47 AM) It won't change things enough to matter... I've driven all the way from BC to Labrador and return on the stock wheels and tires....
@  Surturiel : (13 July 2016 - 11:48 PM) Should I put on wider wheels for the trip? would that make it more bearable? (roadster steelies+conti procontacts)
@  Mike T : (13 July 2016 - 06:18 PM) No problem. I did Toronto to Vancouver Island in 4 days!
@  Surturiel : (13 July 2016 - 05:01 PM) question: I *might* move from Vancouver to Halifax, and was thinking about driving all the way there with my 450. Stupid or REALLY stupid idea?
@  Surturiel : (13 July 2016 - 05:00 PM) hey, everyone
@  Mike T : (11 July 2016 - 08:10 PM) me too
@  dmoonen : (11 July 2016 - 04:59 PM) So I've totally missed updating my bike totals haha

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#1 Grumpyb

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 09:52 AM

Hi , Im a UK Smart owner and I have a converted 08 Passion with a 25 cell Lifepo4 pack and HPEV AC30 motor/ Curtis controller.For a living I support UK Ev users and this came my way as a development mule for a UK company that subsequently made a series of converted Citroen C1s.I actually purchased two of these, but one was totalled in a road accident last year. I still have its remains waiting for an appropriate priced 451 non runner to convert. Having caught the Smart bug, I bought a 451 CDI (2010) that was repossed by the finance company. No keys, 44000miles and lots of general wear. My wrecked electric has provided the replacement worn interior. To sort the keys the UK smatrt dealers wanted around 800 to replace the SAM, keys, lots of special costs for computer codes from MB/ Smart and 120 per hour to do the work. So I shopped around and the formal solution is the Smart one, as you have to have one key for the star diagnostics to programme another. However a nice clever Romanian has worked out how to get around it. And apart from a genuine remote a UK locksmith company who has the computer and kit, charged me 65 to programme one key fob. What a result. The car transmits a code, the key fob responds in a certain way, the std system allows codes to be adrift by a few numbers, to allow for you pushing the buttons away from the car and moving on from your code from the car. So they decode what the car is transmitting, using an algorithm they then create a non moving code chip to match. Put that to the key blade (Fortunately I had one of these) and the car now thinks its got an original key, you can then programme a new fob to the SAM. A brilliant piece of deduction. After a couple of uses of the fob the hard coded chip will no longer be any use but now you have a properly coded new fob.WIth the car functional, it then became obvious why the previous owner had defaulted, The turbo had seized and the shaft snapped. So I have a used turbo, but the original oil pipework was seriously clogged , I dont think they had ever serviced the vehicle. SO I dropped the sump and it was really dirty inside. I have fitted a sump plug, and having cleaned the worst of the muck out I ran flushing oil and a new filter through the engine, and replaced with nice fresh oil and filter. The car would not run for more than a few seconds. Diagnosis was a blocked particle filter. So off with the exhaust and out with the Oly acetylene burner, introducing heat and excess oxygen through the exhaust caused it to burn off the internal muck. More to come the EGR mixing system was almost blocked with greasy gunge, this was cleaned out but the car still goes to limp mode after a couple of minutes. Codes being P1408 and P1409. TAke out the vacuum EGR valve itself, it was not opening at all. Swapped for a clean one but I still have P1408. The moral of this, if the deal looks too good to be true, then it probably is too good to be true. I wish I hadnt strayed from my Electric vehicles, but I do need one that will go a few hundred miles.Any thoughts on P1408?Grumpy-b

Edited by Grumpyb, 12 January 2014 - 09:55 AM.


#2 Mike T

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 10:16 AM

Welcome, that's quite the story, I've no idea about the code though.

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#3 turbomar

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 10:28 AM

Welcome to the forum! Could you elaborate on the EV mod including pics in the EV section

#4 Grumpyb

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 10:52 AM

I didnt put a comment in the EV section as it appeared to be on the Smart /MB v3 rather than conversions.But I will put something on there in the near future.Grumpy-b

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 04:41 PM

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