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@  Francesco : (18 September 2014 - 08:00 PM) Huh?
@  Francesco : (18 September 2014 - 07:43 PM) Back on top! :)
@  jletual : (18 September 2014 - 03:45 AM) thanks @canman
@  CANMAN : (17 September 2014 - 07:47 PM) http://www.fq101.co....ne-rebuild.html
@  CANMAN : (17 September 2014 - 07:47 PM) This guide is for a 600 cc gas smart but almost all the parts / procedure is the same.
@  rustyvolvo : (17 September 2014 - 06:33 PM) WIS doesn't have everything you need to check the engine bottom end out. I was told that at the dealer if it doesn't pass the compression check the short block is changed. I tried a rebuild but haven't finished it yet. A rebuild thread would be fantastic.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (17 September 2014 - 10:56 AM) I don't think I've seen a detailed CDI engine rebuild discussion anywhere. I believe details are in WIS. You may want to send a message to smart_guy, he has done a few engine rebuilds and may be able to point you in the right direction.
@  jletual : (17 September 2014 - 10:23 AM) can anyone point me in the right direction to any forums that have discussed an engine rebuild in great detail for cdi?  We have acquired a second car, this one with a blown engine from a broken timing chain. Want to take it apart and see if its rebuildable.  Any help/diagrams etc would be great!
@  spider : (17 September 2014 - 06:00 AM) 2009 451 exhaust needed
@  Francesco : (13 September 2014 - 09:59 PM) Lol yikes
@  FlossyTheSmart : (13 September 2014 - 05:50 PM) Francesco, you're going to have some child protection agency after you because of that comment at 6:28 ;)
@  Francesco : (13 September 2014 - 03:21 PM) My original 450 steels will be available for sale after I clean them up, 35% Conti TS760s on the skinny fronts, no tires on the rears.
@  Francesco : (13 September 2014 - 03:19 PM) I'm taking all our winter wheels out of storage this week to begin prepping them for sandblasting and paint.
@  Francesco : (13 September 2014 - 03:18 PM) Nice!
@  steveyfrac : (13 September 2014 - 02:38 PM) Winter tires acquired. Boo-ya.
@  Francesco : (13 September 2014 - 02:28 PM) A 10 yr Italian now costs the same as a 10 yr CDN, and no visas or reciprocity fees to many of the countries that require them from CDN passport holders
@  Francesco : (13 September 2014 - 02:26 PM) Well, it IS google. About six weeks ago I spent a moment or two searching for info about getting an Italian passport, which had previously (until July of this year) been prohibitively expensive.
@  FlossyTheSmart : (13 September 2014 - 12:48 PM) I don't see any way to limit languages for adsense. The French ads make sense, since you're in Quebec, but I don't think they'd do italian ones just based on name. Not quite sure what that's about
@  FlossyTheSmart : (13 September 2014 - 12:39 PM) maaayyybeee
@  FlossyTheSmart : (13 September 2014 - 12:39 PM) lol

Used Smart ForTwo engine common problems


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Posted 30 January 2007 - 04:11 AM

Hello.I am a Smart ForTwo lover and a new to this forum. I do not own a Smart yet, but in the begining I would like to buy a used one.I have a serious question.I am located in Greece, Europe, and here a brand new Smart ForTwo costs around 10-12,000 euros.However, you can find a used one aged 1 to 6 years from 3000 up to 6000 euros.Many people told me that these cars, although they have an efficient economic engine and good drive quality on the road, after a certain amount of mileage, their egine presents some sort of damage, cannot function properly anymore, and that is why the used ones are available in such low prices. To repair them you need to change the engine, so you are adviced to buy a brand new instead. Is this true? I cannot believe this, as I trust the brand very much, and I am looking forward to buy a used Smart ForTwo.Thanks

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 05:26 AM

Welcome to the club!We have had the smart here for a little over 2 years so there are not huge numbers of used ones on the market.All the Canadian smarts are diesel and these seem to be a robust engine. However we have had a number of turbo failures, probably because we have an inferior fuel when compared to Europe.I would recommend that you look for a used cdi. Good luck!
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 07:44 AM

Do not buy a 600 cc petrol version; those engines are definitely fragile and they are what gave the smart its reputation for weak engines. The turbos are prone to failure, and one of the three cylinders seems to lose compression easily, usually following the cracking of the exhaust manifold and consequent leaning out of the fuel mixture on one of the cylinders.The 700 cc petrol version is a lot more robust, from the 2003 model year (cars with ESP) until the present time.The diesel engine is the only one that is sold in Canada, and it is by far the most reliable fortwo engine.When buying any used car, there remains risk, depending upon how the previous owner treated the car. Two things to watch for are oil level (never more than half full is best) and whether the driver lets the car idle for ~30 s after driving, which would protect the turbocharger.If I were buying, I would buy a new cdi.
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:40 PM

Two things to watch for are oil level (never more than half full is best)

Uh, say what? Care to clarify, Mike?
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:42 PM

Cars with blown EGR valves, blocked intercoolers and blown turbos often have had oil levels at or above the "full" mark. TPM's ace smart mechanic, Jeff, NEVER fills them to more than halfway up the stick, for that reason.
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 03:20 PM

So you are saying half way down the dipstick marks (0.5L) not 1.4L total ;)Slightly underfilled, not half full, to anybody reading it quickly. :smirk:
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#7 Mike T

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 06:06 PM

Yeah half full on the stick, smartie pants ;)
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