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@  stickman007 : (07 July 2015 - 06:26 AM) I got my H&R cup kit for around $630. The front is adjustable height. Not nearly as nice as the Bilstein, but way cheaper
@  Mike T : (07 July 2015 - 06:25 AM) The Bilstein set is height adjustable
@  Mike T : (07 July 2015 - 06:24 AM) The BRABUS suspension kit has been sold out for a while....I got it at a good price....had the installation done at the time of a major service. Byt 2000 still seems like too much.
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 11:14 PM) Bilstein, sorry
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 09:10 PM) (I was based on Eddie's price for the Eibach set, 1300 and something+ 600 instalation...)
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 09:09 PM) who has this suspension for sale?
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 09:09 PM) that sounds WAY better
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 09:09 PM) oh, ok.
@  Mike T : (06 July 2015 - 09:08 PM) My BRABUS suspension cost me $850 and I had the dealer install it for about $250. So $2000 seems a bit rich!
@  dmoonen : (06 July 2015 - 04:35 PM) In all seriousness about $150
@  dmoonen : (06 July 2015 - 04:33 PM) Two million doll hairs.
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 01:59 PM) and how much is this stalk..?
@  dmoonen : (06 July 2015 - 01:58 PM) Yes you need a new stalk, and just need to activate it with a STAR Machine.
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 01:02 PM) (and yes, your car is pretty much most of what I want on a smart...)
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 01:02 PM) how does the cruise control thing works? Do I need to get a new stalk?
@  Mike T : (06 July 2015 - 12:54 PM) Luckily my car already came with Nappa leather/ Alcantara seats, wide 15 inch rims and so on. Just had to add the finishing touches.
@  Mike T : (06 July 2015 - 12:53 PM) Eddy sells remaps at $300 occasionally, as well as cruise control (OEM)
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:10 PM) wraping? (myself) 500...
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:09 PM) remap? 500...
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:08 PM) interior? ( leather+sound) ANOTHER 2k
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:07 PM) suspension? 2k.
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:07 PM) wheels with tires? 2k (following your advice and using 15"s...)
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:07 PM) I was crunching numbers, and is likely that I'll end up spending around 7k more... :/
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:06 PM) no, I spent less than 3.5k on the car
@  Mike T : (06 July 2015 - 12:05 PM) I spent about $3300 on upgrades to my Tailor Made BRABUS diesel...
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:04 PM) spent*
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:03 PM) first thing that I did was the keyless knob mod
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:02 PM) and no, stock is definitelly not the goal
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 12:01 PM) I spend less than 3.5k on it
@  dmoonen : (06 July 2015 - 11:47 AM) Normal for myself. . things dont stay stock long.
@  Mike T : (06 July 2015 - 10:57 AM) That depends upon how much you paid for it
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 09:48 AM) is it normal to want to spend more than twice that I spent on the car itself on "Upgrades"?
@  Francesco : (06 July 2015 - 09:08 AM) Yep. I know that urge all too well.
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 07:37 AM) but I'll do the non-smart thing and dump lots of money to do everything I can to make it the "perfect" smart
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 07:28 AM) under normal driving conditions*
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 07:28 AM) it's VERY subtle, though. under normal (AKA, not dickhead mode) the car behaves quite well
@  Surturiel : (06 July 2015 - 07:27 AM) nope. in fact, the car is aligned ( I suspected the steering rack at first)
@  dmoonen : (06 July 2015 - 07:11 AM) does it pull to a side?
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:28 PM) and if I brake REAL hard I feel a clunk on the steering wheel)
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:27 PM) the springs are not broken (as far as I could see, at least)
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:26 PM) ( I like toffee, it goes well with pearl)
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:26 PM) nah, I don't. But I want to do something different: Toffee and chesterfield inserts in gray
@  Francesco : (05 July 2015 - 11:26 PM) yeah, clunks are bad. Ball joints more than likely, but could also be sway bar links or even a broken spring (very common)
@  Francesco : (05 July 2015 - 11:24 PM) if you have a leather guy, that's awesome. Mister Dotcom used to supply fitted pieces in the original smart leather. There's a trim shop in the UK now that does our cars but not sure how close it is to the original dark grey leather
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:23 PM) and the front has some clunks when I go too hard on a pothole.
@  Francesco : (05 July 2015 - 11:23 PM) nice
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:22 PM) this car, although is a rebuilt, has only 65k on it
@  Surturiel : (05 July 2015 - 11:22 PM) yeah... my plan is: wheels/tires, suspension (nothing too fancy, I don't want to drop the car), Eddie's remap, put leather on the interior and wrap it in pearl white
@  Francesco : (05 July 2015 - 11:21 PM) twit hinges? Twitchiness... Lol
@  Francesco : (05 July 2015 - 11:21 PM) On our cars? The bushings will resolve some squeaks and some of the twit hinges on uneven bends. But overall, only do it if you suspect your bushes are worn out. I've only done the rear link bushings

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 04:11 AM

Hello.I am a Smart ForTwo lover and a new to this forum. I do not own a Smart yet, but in the begining I would like to buy a used one.I have a serious question.I am located in Greece, Europe, and here a brand new Smart ForTwo costs around 10-12,000 euros.However, you can find a used one aged 1 to 6 years from 3000 up to 6000 euros.Many people told me that these cars, although they have an efficient economic engine and good drive quality on the road, after a certain amount of mileage, their egine presents some sort of damage, cannot function properly anymore, and that is why the used ones are available in such low prices. To repair them you need to change the engine, so you are adviced to buy a brand new instead. Is this true? I cannot believe this, as I trust the brand very much, and I am looking forward to buy a used Smart ForTwo.Thanks

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 05:26 AM

Welcome to the club!We have had the smart here for a little over 2 years so there are not huge numbers of used ones on the market.All the Canadian smarts are diesel and these seem to be a robust engine. However we have had a number of turbo failures, probably because we have an inferior fuel when compared to Europe.I would recommend that you look for a used cdi. Good luck!
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 07:44 AM

Do not buy a 600 cc petrol version; those engines are definitely fragile and they are what gave the smart its reputation for weak engines. The turbos are prone to failure, and one of the three cylinders seems to lose compression easily, usually following the cracking of the exhaust manifold and consequent leaning out of the fuel mixture on one of the cylinders.The 700 cc petrol version is a lot more robust, from the 2003 model year (cars with ESP) until the present time.The diesel engine is the only one that is sold in Canada, and it is by far the most reliable fortwo engine.When buying any used car, there remains risk, depending upon how the previous owner treated the car. Two things to watch for are oil level (never more than half full is best) and whether the driver lets the car idle for ~30 s after driving, which would protect the turbocharger.If I were buying, I would buy a new cdi.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:40 PM

Two things to watch for are oil level (never more than half full is best)

Uh, say what? Care to clarify, Mike?
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:42 PM

Cars with blown EGR valves, blocked intercoolers and blown turbos often have had oil levels at or above the "full" mark. TPM's ace smart mechanic, Jeff, NEVER fills them to more than halfway up the stick, for that reason.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 03:20 PM

So you are saying half way down the dipstick marks (0.5L) not 1.4L total ;)Slightly underfilled, not half full, to anybody reading it quickly. :smirk:
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 06:06 PM

Yeah half full on the stick, smartie pants ;)

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