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@  steveyfrac : (25 May 2016 - 04:49 PM) I'm not sure if I'd go that route, even if it is available, but it'll be interesting to test drive anyways
@  Mike T : (25 May 2016 - 04:00 PM) yes that too would be nuts.
@  Huronlad : (25 May 2016 - 04:59 AM) Hopefully what smart USA has stated about the sport suspension is not accurate for Canada.
@  Huronlad : (25 May 2016 - 04:52 AM) I should have clarified that smart USA is hinting that a pseudo BRABUS will come to the US.  Without the tuned drivetrain, there really would be no reason not to have both transmissions available in this market.
@  Mike T : (24 May 2016 - 08:34 PM) We're getting a BRABUS? And only with the slightly slower accelerating 6 speed auto?? Bizarre.
@  steveyfrac : (24 May 2016 - 07:52 PM) Source on the Sport not being available with the 5spd?

It'll let you configure it that way on the website, and I got a sales guy saying he's got one on the boat that I can test drive in a few weeks...
@  dmoonen : (24 May 2016 - 12:53 PM) Ew
@  Huronlad : (24 May 2016 - 09:59 AM) The BRABUS will also not be available with the 5-speed.
@  Huronlad : (24 May 2016 - 09:41 AM) Sport suspension is not available with the 5-speed.
@  steveyfrac : (23 May 2016 - 07:34 PM) Has anyone test drive the new 2016 Smarts yet? With a stick?

Might consider a Passion / Prime with a stick and Sport package if it drives nice.
@  dmoonen : (18 May 2016 - 07:09 AM) Honestly if youve driven one its so well put together, the NA VR6 engine just amazing.
@  booneylander : (18 May 2016 - 03:42 AM) That's a beauty! I always wanted to TDI-swap one. Diesel AWD!

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 04:11 AM

Hello.I am a Smart ForTwo lover and a new to this forum. I do not own a Smart yet, but in the begining I would like to buy a used one.I have a serious question.I am located in Greece, Europe, and here a brand new Smart ForTwo costs around 10-12,000 euros.However, you can find a used one aged 1 to 6 years from 3000 up to 6000 euros.Many people told me that these cars, although they have an efficient economic engine and good drive quality on the road, after a certain amount of mileage, their egine presents some sort of damage, cannot function properly anymore, and that is why the used ones are available in such low prices. To repair them you need to change the engine, so you are adviced to buy a brand new instead. Is this true? I cannot believe this, as I trust the brand very much, and I am looking forward to buy a used Smart ForTwo.Thanks

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 05:26 AM

Welcome to the club!We have had the smart here for a little over 2 years so there are not huge numbers of used ones on the market.All the Canadian smarts are diesel and these seem to be a robust engine. However we have had a number of turbo failures, probably because we have an inferior fuel when compared to Europe.I would recommend that you look for a used cdi. Good luck!
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 07:44 AM

Do not buy a 600 cc petrol version; those engines are definitely fragile and they are what gave the smart its reputation for weak engines. The turbos are prone to failure, and one of the three cylinders seems to lose compression easily, usually following the cracking of the exhaust manifold and consequent leaning out of the fuel mixture on one of the cylinders.The 700 cc petrol version is a lot more robust, from the 2003 model year (cars with ESP) until the present time.The diesel engine is the only one that is sold in Canada, and it is by far the most reliable fortwo engine.When buying any used car, there remains risk, depending upon how the previous owner treated the car. Two things to watch for are oil level (never more than half full is best) and whether the driver lets the car idle for ~30 s after driving, which would protect the turbocharger.If I were buying, I would buy a new cdi.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:40 PM

Two things to watch for are oil level (never more than half full is best)

Uh, say what? Care to clarify, Mike?
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:42 PM

Cars with blown EGR valves, blocked intercoolers and blown turbos often have had oil levels at or above the "full" mark. TPM's ace smart mechanic, Jeff, NEVER fills them to more than halfway up the stick, for that reason.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 03:20 PM

So you are saying half way down the dipstick marks (0.5L) not 1.4L total ;)Slightly underfilled, not half full, to anybody reading it quickly. :smirk:
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 06:06 PM

Yeah half full on the stick, smartie pants ;)

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